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[–] [email protected] 325 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Tldr: Remote desktop, Cortana, camera, people app are all getting uninstall buttons.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)
PS> get-appxpackage *teams* | remove-appxpackage
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Why remote desktop? I can understand the rest. But who uninstalls default apps and doesn't use remote desktop?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Very few people use remote desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 162 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The more steam deck and proton get games working on linux, the less need I have for this bloated windows.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's truly ridiculous how much Linux gaming leapfrogged with the Steam Deck. I'm contemplating installing a debian partition for my main PC since I don't really play a lot of games that need anti-cheat.

The madlads really did it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah gamers are 95% good to switch.

Gamers and microshit have incompetiable values.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

If devs started making anticheat for Linux it would get closer.

If they stopped making launchers it would be easier too.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (26 children)

I'm all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be clear, they seem to be saying that those apps will still be preinstalled. They'll just be easier to uninstall if you want to do so.

"option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client. "

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Let's cut the crap: it's not that they "realized" nobody wants it -- it's that they've come to accept the blowback against their reputation has gotten too big to outweigh the potential pros of preinstalled bloatware supporting their strategy.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They always knew, they just didn't care.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Im running Windows 11 on my new laptop. Every major update it's like:

  • PLZ LET EDGE BE UR BROWSER
  • BRO PLZ, OFFICE SUBSCRIPTION
  • LOCATION?
  • Let me just install tiktok and FB apps.

My laptop officially supports Ubuntu, think I might make the switch full time. I don't game on my laptop and most of it's use is browser, plex and emails...

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Realized?? They knew all the time, and didn't give a shit.

It's more likely that they have pushed too far, and users are pushing back. They will dial it back a bit, and hope people forget.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That, and stop dumbing down the UI. Gradeschoolers in 1999 could operate windows, it doesn't need to get dumber

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Gradeschoolers, yes.

Boomers are still struggling even with the modern, simplified UI. They would likely continue to struggle if we had Idiocracy style UI on things (big, bright colored buttons with pictures of what they do).

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They've always realized, they've just never cared.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Using Windows primarily for gaming, I eventually got tired of some of the issues I had with it (ads appearing in the start menu). I gave Linux a try and it was so so for a while. I kept going back and forth but it's been 2 years now and I haven't had Windows installed and can play 90% of my games without issue. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. But for those that primarily use their computer for gaming and non-windows specific applications (like web browsing or other various things), Linux is offering some competition for desktop people.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

linux seems to work pretty well until it doesnt and then it really doesnt work. seems that there's still some hardware incompatibility issues

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't give a shit, I'll use other programs to uninstall whatever I want.

Call me when I can use a vertical task bar. Until then, I'm sticking with win10.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This is all so foreign to me now. I'm not forced to keep anything on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (17 children)

How to tell if someone uses Linux? Don't worry they will tell you.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I use Arch BTW. Sorry couldn't help myself.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Linux and FOSS circlejerk will never end. I'm saying this as someone that uses Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A vegan, Linux using crossfitter walks up to you. What do they tell you about first?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a beta build of Windows 11 in the Canary Channel includes the option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client.

Still no Microsoft edge though...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (13 children)

No longer providing a browser with a consumer operating system is a bad idea. How would you install another browser?

They just need to stop plugging and advertising it so relentlessly.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

it's crazy to think that you can't just uninstall some apps in the first place even though it would be technologically possible

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is there a way to disable the ads, news and recommendations yet? Until then I'm not upgrading.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait: They are saying you can remove the Remote Desktop client? You mean the client you cannot use to connect to a Windows Home license because you cannot run remote desktop without a higher license?

Interesting flex there Microsoft.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Good, maybe in two or three more years Windows 11 will be useable. Right on time for Windows 12 to roll out and drag Microsoft users back to the Stone Age again.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

If I could also get the ability to disable internet search results from the start menu that'd be great. So sick of looking for a file or app, hitting enter a second too soon, and having Edge slowly eat my resources to display a Bing search result that I never wanted.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm a CG artist and I dual boot Fedora on my workstation and run it on my file/license server. I'm very familiar with Linux and it's great for a lot of things.

A ton of my software runs much better than on windows and I would stay in it if I could, but unfortunately I have software needs that don't run on Linux and can't work in a VM in full capacity.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Windows 11 Pro, now with NOTHING installed. Windows 11 Pro plus, now with firefox pre-installed so you can clame your system never had edge on it!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They always knew. When the time comes they'll force everything back with even more bloatware and even less freedom to choose because that's the corpo way. This is just another long-term power grab.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (13 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

every few reboots it asks me to install it and it's really fucking annoying and I have a feeling I'm not going to have a choice at some point. my wife installed it accidentally and now she's fucked. the thing fucking sucks.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Alternatively, you can get a copy of Win 10 LTSC that doesn't have any bloatware pre-installed.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What about one drive and edge?? Last time I had to do updates on the SOs computer I told her I'm switching her to Linux as soon as gaming just gets a little more stable (she plays halo infinite, which sometimes isn't that polished on Linux)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wake me when you can uninstall the Chat app without powershell (which I assume is a thing but don't use Win11 so I don't know)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mmm that's not really realizing anything.

You know what sort of tom fuckery I had to get into to get my gaming laptop working? I had to find a sketchy windows 10 LTS IOT ISO, run some registry hack then find and install all my drivers just because the regular working consumer edition of windows is such a bag of bloat..

For hardware I paid for..! Next time I'm just going with system76 right out of the gate. I just kept reading reviews about things not working right or still being in development so I bought a mainstream laptop with a warranty.

A lot of linuxy or FOSS sort of stuff is still buggy despite being better than it was ten years ago. No one talks about it. Purism phone, pine phone, Linux gaming, the steam deck, etc. They all have major flaws or sometimes breaks in functionality. Where mainstream has breaks 1/10 even the best Linux setup has breaks 1/5 of the time minimum. And that's great but it still sucks that you have to look elsewhere because mainstream is a monetization sponge in all senses of the phrase.

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