Technology

[–] simdlauper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 years ago (3 children)

No longer providing a browser with a consumer operating system is a bad idea. How would you install another browser?

They just need to stop plugging and advertising it so relentlessly.

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[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)

The package manag- oh it's windows right

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[–] xill47@lemm.ee 15 points 3 years ago (3 children)

It has built in package manager now (winget install Mozilla.Firefox would install Firefox on clean Win11 installation).

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[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago

IK I was just poking fun at windows, but the average user (a grandma or other non-tech literate person) won't know it even exists, plus it doesn't resolve the issue that, aside from a few maybe legal scripts, you can't uninstall edge. Still a step in the good direction though.

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[+] Abnorc@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

So YoU hAvE tO uSe ThE cOmManD lInE

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[–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

No, the cli is just a wrapper around the microsoft store app

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[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI.

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[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time.

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[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned.

I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child)

uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow....

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[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago

Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me.

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[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 years ago

Sure it's okay they come with a browser, but you should be able to uninstall edge after you've downloaded another browser

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 3 years ago

That's the Windows 95 lawsuit all over again. They forced internet explorer on people, got sued for creating & exploiting a monopoly, lost, and had to offer people the chance to remove it.

They claimed it's integral part of the OS, and so were forced to un-integrate it.

I'm sure they will find a way to give users a choice to get rid of Edge, if they ~~really wanted to~~ were forced yet again.