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Microsoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware (www.pcmag.com)
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[–] 108 points 3 years ago (8 children)

I'm all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    To be clear, they seem to be saying that those apps will still be preinstalled. They'll just be easier to uninstall if you want to do so.

    "option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client. "

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    My issue is the Solitaire and games. We have Win11 for Business (Switching to Enterprise soon) and I have to run a powershell script during Intune/oobe to rip out all the bloat.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago

    But Windows always came with Solitaire - even 30+ years ago. It was included originally to teach users how to use a mouse. Solitaire makes you click, double click and drag.

    Removing Solitaire caused its own backlash. They can't win with that one.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    my work is transitioning to it soon, I'll have to find similar scrips soonish.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I have an amazing resource for this kinda stuff. As soon as I an remember it and find it I'll drops comment here.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    would appreciate it, thanks!!

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Here you go if you aren't using PSAppDeploy to deploy software in your Org you're doing it wrong ;).

    They've got Remediation scripts and PSAppDeploy scripts for a LOT of applications

    PSAppDeploy: https://github.com/PSAppDeployToolkit/PSAppDeployToolkit

    Scripts: https://silentinstallhq.com/detection-scripts/

    PSAppDeploy works great within both SCCM and Intune App Deployment

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Windows 11 ships with a shitty featureless version of the remote desktop client. You have to download the "real" or "full" version from the Windows app store.

    I found this out incidentally a few weeks ago and it is annoying having the app you need and some random imposter app with the same name clogging up search / start menu.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    "if I don't use it, it's useless"

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Bloatware doesn’t necessarily mean it’s useless, but if even a reasonable percent of people don’t want or need it or shouldn’t be preinstalled. That’s bloatware.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    For bloatware to be a meaningful term, I think it needs to go beyond just some arbitrary percent of users don't need or use it. For an OS, having baseline apps which are useful across a wide variety of hardware setups and use cases is reasonable, even if they don't apply in your particular situation. Bloat would be superfluous apps that replicate baseline features or baseline apps that have grown in scope beyond what's strictly necessary.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Remote desktop and camera apps are pretty primary pieces of functionality, whether or not you use or need them. Windows is bloated garbage in general but those apps are not really a part of that imo... I don't know if there's really a precise definition of bloatware but I sort of think of it mostly as something that takes up your system resources rather than just hard drive space. Something that runs all or most of the time even though it doesn't actually provide much value

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    It's bloat because a lot of people will never make use of it, so it's taking up more space (bloating it) for no appreciable gain. It should be easy to install if you do want to make use of it, but not literally every piece of software should be installed just because some people will use it.

    It coming pre-installed is also harmful to third parties. Many will just choose the MS version because it's already there, rather than potentially find another group who's made similar (maybe even better) software for the same purpose.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    By that definition grep and awk are bloat on Linux.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    RDC could be a good option to uninstall for businesses where the machine acts as a terminal and you don't want those devices launching RDC to begin with Not sure why it hasn't been allowed already.

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