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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The medal counts are inflated in favor of certain countries anyway because some disciplines like swimming have dozens of different medals that you can get, and if you have people that are really good at swimming you can already count on double digit medal counts just from that. Also it helps them a lot that they excluded Russia who have some of the best athletes in the world.

The Olympics has always been a Western centric thing and now it's becoming even more so. Europe is wildly over-represented compared to the global south. So what's even the point of watching what's largely just a Euro-American circlejerk plus a couple of token other countries? It's a miracle that they haven't kicked China out yet so it can just be the Anglo-Europeans plus their little poodles Japan and South Korea.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

What is CPTPP?

Edit: If it is Comprehensive Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership I will be very confused.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

CPTPP

I think that's the point. They've come up with a bizarre way of classifying Pacific rim countries that excludes China, and lumped the EU together in order to portray China as being #3 instead of #1.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

I get that but using CPTPP is kinda reaching. I didn't know what it was until I just searched it right now. I am sure 80% of the people seeing this will be equally confused.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But why EU? I was used that every European country was ranked individually. Is this new, have I miss something or am I plain wrong?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

It's just to show that the west is winning over evil commies. It makes no sense otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

The picture is pretty low res but it looks like the flags line up with the Comprehensive Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership.

The countries are not really that culturally tied or part of a real geopolitical block.

The only reason they have done this I think is to make the EU grouping seem less obviously cope by having another grouping on the board.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

its been such a shit show lol, but china's swimming team drip won the propaganda battle imo

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

The world's most annoying 15%

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why is Hong Kong a separate country here?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

lol right, they split an actual country up and then merged a bunch of countries into EU into one, might as well just put NATO on the scoreboard at this point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hong Kong’s team and China’s team are two separate and distinct entities at the Olympics. China specifically outlined that they were alright with that back in 1997.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, and it's still weird that the Olympics insists on treating HK as a separate entity wouldn't you agree?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No? The Olympics treat them as separate entities because at the Olympics they are separate entities. This is a tableau of medal counts, and Hong Kong’s team operates independently of China’s as an independent entity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do explain the rationale for why the Olympics treats HK as a separate entity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hong Kong has maintained their own independent Olympic team since 1952. During the handover of the territory in 1997, China outlined in the treaty that incorporated Hong Kong and later the Hong Kong constitution in Article 151, Chapter 7 of the Basic Law,

May, on its own, maintain and develop relations and conclude and implement agreements with foreign states and regions and relevant international organizations in the appropriate fields, including the economic, trade, financial and monetary, shipping, communications, tourism, cultural and sports fields"

I really don’t get what’s so hard to understand here. At the Olympics, they are two separate entities with two separate Olympic committees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok sure, now explain CPTPP and E.U. countries categories, just trying to understand how that fits with this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why are you shifting the conversation? I was talking about Hong Kong. Where did I ever mention the other parts of the table? Do you think I’m defending the Olympic committee?

Really?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not shifting the conversation. The whole context here is the image I posted where they split up China and HK while combining EU countries into one entity. Hence why I was pointing out the absurdity of the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thats where the liberalism comes in, and why I’m not “defending” what they did with the other combinations.

I’m just saying that there’s at least a plausible reason to separate the Chinese and Hong Kong numbers.

I’m not arguing about this with you. Goodbye. I just stated they were separate teams. Not everything is an argument.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I understand your reasoning about why China and HK. What I was pointing out was the inconsistency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Because Hong Kong maintains its own separate Olympic team which is grandfathered in, and also explicitly allowed by the PRC stipulations they handled the reintegration of Hong Kong.

They are two separate teams.