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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (3 children)

“Unfortunately this person is indeed at liberty to fly that flag,” said Gassner. “But fortunately, we are also at liberty to vehemently criticize that

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

We wrote a very strongly worded letter! 😂

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I remember that, quite funny, eh...

At least the flag isn't made on social media posting, otherwise it would be hidden, if not taken down.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Oh no! Not criticism! What ever will we do???

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

“The flag is upsetting not just for Ukrainians who have family members there right now, but any Ukrainian alive today who has parent, or a grandparent, or a great-grandparent that suffered the atrocities of soviet rule.”

The flag is upsetting because it is associated with atrocities? Fine. Quoting Grzegorz Rossoliński‐Liebe’s Stepan Bandera: The Life and Afterlife of a Ukrainian Nationalist, pages 184–5:

The building in which the militia station would be established was to have a yellow‐and‐blue Ukrainian flag on it.¹¹⁸ For the purpose of establishing the militia, the OUN‐B was wary of “provincial cities that are inhabited with foreign‐national elements.” In such cases, the Ukrainian militiamen were to be recruited from adjacent villages.¹¹⁹ The Ukrainian militiamen from villages were expected to establish “order [lad i poriadok]” in the cities and to “cleanse” them of “Soviet intelligence, counterinsurgency, etc. officials, Muscovites, Jews, and others.”¹²⁰

Pages 186–7:

Spreading rumors about the death of Stalin or the start of a revolution in Moscow was also intended to become an important activity of OUN‐B activists during the “Ukrainian National Revolution,”¹³⁰ as were putting up yellow‐and‐blue […] flags at every administrative building, painting tridents in black on buildings, printing posters, hanging them in public spaces, prompting the population to participate in parades, greeting OUN‐B members from the area of the General Government, cheering and greeting the [Axis] troops in the name of the Leader Stepan Bandera, organizing propagandist funerals for dead revolutionaries, and so on.¹³¹

In addition, the OUN‐B revolutionaries were to motivate the population to refuse to help wounded enemies. They were also expected to inform everybody in the revolutionary territories that there would be no mercy for those who did not follow the rules and orders of the OUN.¹³²

Page 214:

Because the pogrom in Lviv took place at the same time as the proclamation of the Ukrainian state, the city was full of yellow‐and‐blue and swastika flags, and posters blaming the Jews for the murder of the prisoners, or celebrating Stepan Bandera and Adolf Hitler with slogans such as “Long Live Stepan Bandera, Long Live Adolf Hitler.” The “Great German Army,” the OUN, and the war against “Jewish communists” were also celebrated on posters, under which fell the bodies of murdered Jews.

(Emphasis added in all cases.)

Unfortunately for us, anticommunists already have their response ready.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

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But now that Russia is invading Ukraine and using the old soviet-era flag as a symbol of power and domination, even flying it from tanks

Is there any proof of Russia ever doing this?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

There isn't, anti-communists just seethe at the flag.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've seen some individual Russian soldiers wearing Soviet symbols if that counts. I've definitely seen Russian tanks with the hammer and sickle on them, but who knows how common that is or what the individual soldiers involved are trying to say. I also saw a video years ago of some Ukrainian soldiers ripping a Soviet flag down from an old lady's front lawn. She said something like "my parents fought for that flag."

Also I don't speak Russian or Ukrainian, and this entire war was been rife with misinformation, so who knows. I doubt the Russian chief staff of the army is commanding the display of Soviet flags though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

I also saw a video years ago of some Ukrainian soldiers ripping a Soviet flag down from an old lady's front lawn. She said something like "my parents fought for that flag."

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

"Black Ribbon Day" and "Double Genocide" in Canada

https://redsails.org/black-ribbon-day/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only thing that will fix Vancouver's housing crisis is Soviet style housing policy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As well as ending the opioid epidemic with proper rehabilitation and programs to deal with the core problem. Big Pharma has indirectly fueled the epidemic thanks to oxycodone and hydrocodone misuse.