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https://beta.maps.apple.com/

It doesn’t seem to support Firefox or mobile browsers, at least not.

Maps on the web is compatible with these web browsers

On your Mac or iPad

  • Safari
  • Edge
  • Chrome

On your Windows PC

  • Edge
  • Chrome
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Ah come on! Why no Firefox support?!?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just tried it on a Firefox fork on Android. Works fine if you spoof the useragent.

I hate that bs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

For people like me who thought they have to hack into the Pentagon to spoof their Browser data: you can do that by using chameleon, an extension thats at least in the Firefox add on page

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

For a while Apple artificially blocked signing in to your Apple ID with physical passkeys (like a Yubikey) on Firefox even though the browser supported it just fine.

Their "iCloud for Windows" browser extensions didn't support Firefox either last time I checked (needed for syncing bookmarks and the password manager).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I get it. It's still beta, and we're only like 2% of the market. Makes sense not to worry about us yet.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not compatible with Firefox is the fastest way to know they don't follow web standards. On brand.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I dislike Apple more than most people, and they are indeed terrible with standards in general, but with web standards they're doing the world a bit of a favour by pushing WebKit (based on KHTML) on all its users. WebKit is open source and used in for example GNOME Web.

Had it not been for Apple nobody would give a shit about creating websites that work outside of Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

2% and shrinking with every major service that isn't compatible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Then we'll make our own fedi-services with blackjack and hookers, someday… One can dream.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

🤷‍♂️ It’s in beta, so I wouldn’t assume that support won’t get added.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I would. Apple has a long history of intentionally crippling its services on Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What is this shit?

Oh wow another proprietary maps service that uses opensource data that's years late! wow amazing!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

apple maps uses openstreetmap underneath? but I think they add a lot of other data like traffic and poi details

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused, because doesn't Duckduckgo Maps already use Apple Maps?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Kagi Maps has it as an option too. And it works on Firefox. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know Kagi had a maps functionality. It's interesting, but I couldn't find a way for it to tell me public transportation directions, the only reason I keep using Google Maps...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah I can only find driving directions. I've come across other apps over the years but only ones on Google Play Store. I don't think I've seen any mobile apps that are open source and do my region.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you wanna degoogle, https://www.openstreetmap.org is the way to go.

For your phone:
https://organicmaps.app (simple, easy to use)
https://osmand.net (more features)
https://www.magicearth.com (proprietary, with traffic info)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trade one master for another. All these companies have the same playbook on a slightly shifted timeline.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

„tired of sucking one Multimillion Dollar companys balls? Just Suck the balls of another!“

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can't open it because I'm on Linux and Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It won't open in Brave on Linux either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Seems like they developed it for specific browsers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Seems like I won't be using their bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Seems like they ~~developed it for~~ arbitrarily locked it down to specific browsers using the user agent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

As others have said. Just use opensteeetmaps.

They're the best (even for hiking)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

lol, I didn't even know that it wasn't available on the web.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Tee hee. Not supporting iPhone? Yes it has an app …. I just find that really funny.

Safari and (chromium) browsers. Huh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

i’m confused… apple maps wasn’t available on the web? you’ve been able to send apple maps links forever, and they’ve had an embedding api where you could embed apple maps into web pages :/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

At least not.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I really hope they will release an Android app :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

OrganicMaps already exists :p