this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2024
16 points (100.0% liked)

UK Politics

3008 readers
235 users here now

General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both [email protected] and [email protected] .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

[email protected] appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 7 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But the Independent Workers’ union of Great Britain (IWGB), says their members have been overlooked.

It represents some gig economy workers, such as Uber and Deliveroo drivers, who aren't explicitly mentioned in the new bill.

Because they are seen as self-employed, they aren't entitled to benefits such as holiday and sick pay.

General secretary Henry Chango Lopez says this makes them "some of the most precarious and exploited in society, lacking the most basic rights and remaining unsupported by legislation".

The Trades Union Congress (TUC) estimates more than 4m people in England and Wales work in the gig economy.

So it's been carefully worded to include the 1m people on zero hours contracts but not the 4m in the gig economy, although I can't figure out there's much of a difference.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Labour had a separate commitment to redefining the categories of self-employed and employee in their "New Deal for Workers".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That carefully wording amounts to.

"Employee"

Its more a lack of extra rules for contract then an employment rule.

The gov has plans to address both. In other laws. But I expect it to amount to a restriction on when a workers can be considered self employed rather then an employee.

Takes a bit more planning then the zero hour contract thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Well at least it helps a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But people who want to opt in to zero-hours contracts because of the flexibility they offer can still do so.

This seems like the best way of doing things, because if there's people who want to be on a zero-hours contract they shouldn't be banned from doing so.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

If people can opt in then they will be pressured into opting in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

How do you define opt in. Cos I garrentee you if the company wants 0 hour employees those that don't opt in don't get a job.