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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep — it’s Christian fascism. They want to use the power of the state to control people and hurt who they don’t like.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That definitely true for a significant percentage of republicans (especially their politicians and media personalities) but like any large group, republicans are internally diverse, and it's unhelpful, and potentially dangerous, to think of them as a cultural monolith with identical values.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans aren't internally diverse. Reagan and his evangelical allies chased all the non-christofascists out of the party decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Republicans aren’t diverse, but all large groups are internally diverse. The christo-fascist voting block has a lot of power in the party, and has direct influence over policy, but that doesn't mean they make up the majority of Right wing voters. You have to imagine other people complexly, even the shittiest person has complicated and unique reasons for why they are so shitty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a large group of republicans opposing the current fascist explosion in their party?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

unfortunately no, just a large group who's convinced that the fascism is just democrat smear campaign

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno, they seem to be totally okay with this since they keep voting for it. In what sense is "not all Republicans" a reasonable response when, again, they vote for this and continue voting for it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For starters, a lot of them are convinced that the democrats are even worse, and they are just voting for the lesser of two evils. Our democracy doesn't do a great job of reflecting the peoples values

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhhh, but they're wrong, right? Like, Democrats are voting for affordable health care, queer rights, and women's rights... and Republicans are trying to take all that away. Even if they're convinced Democrats are worse, they're still wrong and we can reasonably say they're indulging in Christian fascism to control the people they don't like. In fact, that's explicitly what they're doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Talking about all republicans as a single entity, I think I would agree with you. But that view ignores all of the internal politics, and is ultimately unhelpful when talking to actual individual republican voters.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The attack on bodily autonomy is not general. It is aimed at women. It subjects their bodies to state control and in the process degrades their citizenship. “Without the ability to decide whether and when to have children, women could not — in the way men took for granted — determine how they would live their lives, and how they would contribute to the society around them,” the dissenters in Dobbs wrote. For women to take their place as “full and equal citizens,” they “must have control over their reproductive decisions.”