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If you haven't heard of it, this island has a population that the world has collectively decided to leave alone, mostly because they have proven, on multiple occasions, that they absolutely do not want visitors. Like, arrow-to-death anyone attempting to land or even visit near their shores.

This probably cannot go on forever... but maybe, it could. Essentially, we are already implementing a 'Prime Directive' of sorts here. Would the 23rd, 24th, ... centuries in Star Trek canon still have this little island on Earth, isolated from not just from Earth's own unified Federation society, but from the greater Federation races? What steps would the Federation and Earth take to maintain their isolation and the ecosystem on which they depend?

Would make for an interesting episode, or at least a cool side-note reference in one :)

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There is an episode of Voyager where Seven and Chakotay get stuck in a nature reserve which is populated by an uncontacted species of humanoid. This reserve is separated from the rest of the planet by a force field.

So i would say yes. The Federation would put up a shield and forbid people from entering.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But would it have it have remained left alone long enough to get to the point where the federation and prime directive protected it...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

hell no, the Eugenics wars probably affected every square inch of the planet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

On Earth? Because they were supposed to like really far away.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I imagine that the events leading up to the formation of the Federation would disrupt their way of life. Most notably, WWIII, which most likely could wipe them out. Assuming they remain somehow untouched, the eventual visible air traffic might draw out the more curious among their population.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure there's visible air traffic there today. Veer Savarkar International Airport is only ~30 miles away from North Sentinel Island, so they probably see planes on a daily basis.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That island is safe but you just know Riker is going to touch everything on MILF Island.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Starfleet HQ, 5 minutes later:

Get off MILF Island

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I am getting off on milf island - Riker probably

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sadly it was funnier before it became a real thing. I guess it goes to show how smart 30 Rock's writers are. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MILF_Manor

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it was funny on 30 Rock because it was an over-the-top trashy parody. When it became real, it's just cringe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Oh dear god, we live in the worst timeline.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Too late. Kirk already romanced one of the women and killed a man in ritual combat.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Somehow the Ferangi would manage to sell them photon torpedoes. They'd still fire at anyone who approached their island .

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

It'll be a moot point, once the polar icecaps are melted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Thanks for this, I hadn't heard about them before.

I thought this was a good history, and I'm surprised no one has demanded storming the island by force or something stupider:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kionasmith/2018/11/30/everything-we-know-about-the-isolated-sentinelese-people-of-north-sentinel-island/

Edit: fixed link.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait till you hear about Christians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I don't even remember what the original (wrong) link I had posted was that you were replying to here :). Sounds interesting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least one idiot tried, and he got what he fucking deserved.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's ludicrous to describe a lone missionary as "storming the island by force".

I agree that it was a foolish move on his part, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm aware he didn't storm the island by force - I didn't use those words. The implication was that he went where it was made abundantly clear he wasn't wanted - more than once - and suffered the consequences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

The comment you responded to used those words, though.

I’m surprised no one has demanded storming the island by force

At least one idiot tried

Re-reading it, I suppose you meant to invoke "something stupider" which does make sense. Carry on!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Odd link to post, but okay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ah jeeze. They have one of those stupid setups where if you scroll far enough you get to the next article transparently. And it actually changes the URL. I'd gotten to the end of tbe article I meant to post, but when I copied the URL it was for the next article.

Fixed the link.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lol, I figured it was something like that. 😂 But romantic relationship style link was good stuff, too!