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The killer was only 14 and had lived in youth homes as a ward of the authorities since he was eight.

A year ago, a gang helped the boy escape, put him up in a hotel and gave him cannabis, food and new clothes. Six days later, gang members told him it was time to repay them for their kindness. They had a job for him.

Together with another youth, the boy, who as a juvenile cannot be identified, shot dead a 33-year-old Hells Angels biker. He was convicted by a court which described the case as a gangland contract killing.

As he was too young to be sentenced, he was handed back to social services and sent to another youth home.

Sweden has long prided itself on one of the world's most generous social safety nets, with a state that looks after vulnerable people at all stages of life.

But these days it also has another distinction: by far the highest per capita rate of gun violence in the EU. Last year 55 people were shot dead in 363 separate shootings in a country of just 10 million people. By comparison, there were just six fatal shootings in the three other Nordic countries - Norway, Finland and Denmark - combined.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

daaamn this gang applied the same old receipt : The french word for murderer is "assassin" that comes from the haschischins sect (XIe century). The "old men from the mountain" (leader) gave young mens a taste of paradise (cannabis, food, shelter, maybe girls) then sent them to kill someone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isnt this basically the plot of Alamut?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Assassin's Creed says what?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

So he killed a dude And they sent him back to the youth home? Are they just stupid or what?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

The kid is a victim.

And in Sweden what in the US would be called a "juvenile detention center" would fall under the term of "youth home". He wasn't returned to the same one.

I don't think they're exactly leaving him unguarded, being underage, there isn't another type of facility suited for legally incarcerating him. These facilities essentially double as juvie and orphanages.

Mixing kids who are simply in government care with ones that are violent, was never a good idea though. These two systems should be separate, because it's now turning the former into the latter.

According to accounts for this story from eight sources including a former gang member, several youth home workers, prosecutors and criminologists, the homes have turned into recruiting grounds for gangs, who use them to enlist killers too young to be jailed.

Gangs have essentially found a loophole for legal murder. Get a child to do it.

They're the ones masterminding this shit. It's not like these actual children, with government rooves over their heads, are taking on contract killing to make ends meet.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mixing kids who are simply in government care with ones that are violent, was never a good idea though.

That's the issue here. There's a huge difference between the kids in state care because they are orphaned and the kids who get sent to juvenile detention centers or even what we call in the US "alternative schooling."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Not as big a difference as you think there is. Both are children needing love, acceptance, guidance and healing from massive traumas you can't even begin to imagine.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

It's the system that's the problem. It was built for a society with a very homogenous and pacifist culture profile. That society no longer exists.

The majority in Sweden is going through a rather rude awakening right now and our systems are going to break a lot whilst our politicians struggle to bring them in line with our new reality.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not every nation follows America's hardline view of kids and crime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There's a whole world between American style brutal sentencing and whatever nonsense Sweden is doing. Neither seem to be working

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It all has to with with money, ie: if you invest in proper care for the kids = it costs more than just warehousing/condemning them to the bare minimum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I was more thinking of what to do with underage murderers and the sort

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