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[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago

There are things that are cool if they are voluntary but not cool when forced.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People in china make things with love too. Electronics, games, movies, shows, comedy, art, software etc.

Fuck the government but the hate for the people in china is disgusting. I do get it. I do. The government is absolutely fucked and very oppressive.

But i feel like a lot of people don't see that a TON of american and european products are made in china too. And think "oh i don't buy a chinese phone! Its made by abused workers!".

And then buy an iPhone. Completely forgetting that phone is made in the same factory but with an american logo on it.

We need to be more focused. We can't let people forget that the government and the people are not the same.

I know people say the "chinese" or the "russians" or the "americans". But we should say the government instead when talking about political conflicts. A lot of people read the "chinese" or the "americans" and see it as that ENTIRE country. People, government etc. As if it is all one singular thing.

Its just sad and wrong to see them as one and the same.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Chinese plants will make whatever the hell you need them to at your desired quality, as long as you meet the market price.

There’s an incredible irony in Americans associating them with poor quality because the American capitalists ordering the goods decided to cheap out and cut corners lmao.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Ex-fucking-actly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's hilarious to see people hating on china because of the governement while their own governement probably do worse, and history proved that occident is capable of worse

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is mostly true for nationalistic American liberals. China is the opposing empire to America, while many see Japan as this "country uplifted by America." This attitude isn't new and isn't consciously held by most people that parrot it. Most don't know any better and many would accept the nuances if presented respectfully.

Empires occasionally do good when it serves their interests, while every country has serious issues they need to deal with. You can still oppose authoritarians or be a weeb without needing to ignore reality.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, this image is basically applicable to the entire west? Though the first part might be more weebs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It's biggest in America, as we're more involved in the Pacific. Other western countries side with us, but are less directly invested and gung-ho. The rest of the west is less likely to directly fight China or defend Japan.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Pacific Rim | Winnie the Pooh

Evangelion | Also Winnie the Pooh

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

Get in the fursuit Shinji

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It was the old image of Chinese products (edit: also services), but recently their quality has increased significantly. On top of that, the price is much lower than alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It's mostly the surveillance state

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

⚠️ You have alerted the horde

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When people saw the price, they stopped caring about that. This has been the case of Hong Kong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

price makes no fucking difference whether or not it comes from a sweatshop. especially fucking clothes

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sweatshop is probably true, but I'm telling you, you just cannot resist the price as a consumer. Tooth filling for 29 HKD (3.7 USD), you just can't beat that.

Hongkonger are extremely realistic and practical. Price low? Use it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I thought it was about the dogs painted to look like tigers in the zoo, for example.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes but i would rather not support the ccp.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

do you have concerns about buying American stuff? I mean the usa just got outed running an antivax campaign to kill Asian people while hoarding vaccines.

States aren't your friend yo

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Yes. I hate consumerism and our corporate overlords. I hate any World Super Power(tm), real or imaginary.

It's a team sport, but we're all the disposable pawns.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you support the ccp and their oppression of the Chinese population?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Chinese are humans too. They have a life, have things to pay for, and most of them are not even associated with the government.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then don't buy things that are owned by the ccp. I'm not against them. I'm against their government, and unfortunately, we can't do anything about the ccp except not buy as much as possible from China.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to all the major Industries that are buying and producing stuff in china than just a regular bloke

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Just because they are shitty doesn't mean I have to be too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, the Chinese are people too, and they are being oppressed by their government.

What's your point?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

This but unironically.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you because I could not figure out the top two panels.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

In China and Japan, traditionally they write top to bottom... Doubt this is a translated post though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Me, a fan of kung fu movies and Chinese food: China has good thing too 🥹

The cities, the culture, and the people are pretty cool. The government is what sucks. But, like... That's true of damn near every country.