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[–] [email protected] 118 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's in Intercal, a joke language from '70s. Mark Rendle describes it here in his talk at NDC. This whole talk is ridiculous btw.

[–] [email protected] 167 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is the same language where you have to say PLEASE sometimes or it won't compile. But if you say PLEASE too much, the compiler will think you're pandering and also refuse to compile. The range between too polite and not polite enough is not specified and varies by implementation.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

I love how arbitrary, cultural and opinionated that must be to work with. You'd learn something about the implimenter of the compiler by using it for a while.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

This is hilarious!

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago

Wh... what do you mean, "originally as a joke"?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago

That sounds like a fucking nightmare. I had to troubleshoot poorly-written-yet-somehow-functional GOTOs a lot when I was a BAS technician and that's annoying enough.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Guy who worked at my place before me kept using these and GOTO statements all over the place.

His name? Cotton-eyed Joe

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thanks for the catchy tune, now the song sticks in my mind again. Last time was long time ago. :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

where did you COMEFROM where did you GO.....TO

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

where did you COMEFROM, cottonEyedJoe2

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reference to Cottoneyed Joe considered harmful

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I almost spat out my drink when I saw this

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

PLEASE COMEFROM 🏷

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

COMEFROM is my go to function;

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I honestly thought C++ (aka dumping ground of programming concepts) would implement this for "completeness".

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They should add it in C++26

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

shut your mouth

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Aaahhh, this is horrifying! You've ruined my breakfast 🙀

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

TBH I fail to see the significant difference between this and a function declaration.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it steal control flow? More like a break point, except you define where execution continues.

I wonder if it's a compile error to have multiple conflicting COMEFROM statements, or if it's random, kind of like Go's select statement.

How awesome would it be to be able to steal the execution stack from arbitrary code; how much more awesome if it was indeterminate which of multiple conflicting COMEFROM frames received control! And if it included a state closure from the stolen frame?

Now I want this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

I wonder if it's a compile error to have multiple conflicting COMEFROM statements

I think there's at least one INTERCAL implementation where that's how you start multi-threading

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago
print(A)
print(B)
hello: print(C)
print(D)
print(E)
comefrom hello
print(F)

This will print A, B, C and then F. D and E will be skipped because of the comefrom.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I'd say it's more like setting up a handler for a callback, signal, interrupt or something along those lines.

Function declarations by themselves don't usually do that. Something else has to tell the system to run that function whenever the correct state occurs.

That doesn't account for unconditional come-froms.¸but I expect there'd have to be a label at the end of some code somewhere that would give a hint about shenanigans yet to occur. Frankly that'd be worse than a goto, but then, we knew that already.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

A function will be called by code and go to that point in code. To implement functions, you store necessary things to memory and goto the function definition. To implement that with comefrom you'd have to have a list of all the places that need to call the function as comefroms before the function definition. It'd be a mess to read. We almost never care where we are coming from. We care where we're going to. We want to say "call function foo" not "foo takes control at line x."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

it's semantic

at the end of the day everything boils down to sequence and branchifs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Its like if subroutine bar could say its going to execute at line N of routine foo. But if you were just reading foo then you'd have no clue that it would happen.

You can simulate this effect with bad inheritance patterns.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

am i the only dumb fuck here who unironically likes this?

would make goto type situations much more usable

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

I don't see any case where this is better than a goto. A goto you can read progressively though. A comefrom you'd see written then have to track to that piece of code and remember there's a potential hidden branch there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It's basically a simpler version of a callback

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

more practical than goto

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Looks like C# 12 interceptors:

[InterceptsLocation(@"C:\testapp\Program.cs", line: 4, column: 5)]

I know it looks awful, but it's not intended for direct use, but rather for source generators for native ahead of time compilation.

https://andrewlock.net/exploring-the-dotnet-8-preview-changing-method-calls-with-interceptors/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You’re gonna love HCF then!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago