Lemmygrad on steroids
Our grad comrades catching way to many strays since we federated.
this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2023
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how do we keep getting out tankie'd by hexbear wtf 
I think libs think our 
comrades are some how the most tankie of tankies. Giving us the edge.
I do love that they call anarchists tankies, gives me great joy to see them own themselves by going mask off as terminally online radlibs like that
I saw some rage thread on lemm.33 calling the mods tankies for refusing to defed us.
Tankie just means anyone to the left of Biden now.
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a friendly competition to see who can be more communist 
They are intimidated by the sheer size of Hexbear and keep forgetting how much you guys punch above your weight. Its like they got into a fight with the Vietnamese military and then turned around and suddenly saw 
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You've got to remember that we spent several years fighting every liberal on reddit and winning so hard the admins had to intervene repeatedly to try to stop us. God created Arrakis to train the faithful.
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The other day someone called hexbear "lemmygrad-lite". Moving up in the world ig
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That was the nudge I needed to make an account over here. I joined midwest.social because it was an explicitly leftist server. I would have been very sad to lose access to the good posts here now that I know about them, and honestly I'm pretty baffled at the number of users native to that instance who are bitching about you all in that thread.
Edit: thank you all so much for the warm welcome ❤️
welcome to the evil site of tankies, hope you enjoy your stay
I would say I'm from the true tankie instance but the libs are giving our crown to hexbear
Lemmygrad is a well drilled column of tanks with a shared mission. Hexbear is a constantly snowballing militia of half-mad generals, shellshocked tank commanders, and eager young comrades who heard them speak - constantly firing in all directions, but always outward.
The liberal craves order, predictability, even when facing it as their enemy. Hexbear is relentless and utterly unpredictable.
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Welcome to the bear site! We're happy to have you.
If you haven't gotten a welcome glad to have you here.
It's a little chaotic, there are struggle sessions, but so long as people come with actually open minds it's generally incredibly friendly here.
Welcome, please enjoy the fine selection of emojis
One of us one of us
I also joined midwest.social because they claimed to be an explicitly leftist instance. It would be extremely disappointing if they defederate.
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repeat CCP talking points while waving anyway anything even remotely reliable as Western propaganda.
Now this is dialectics
What's up with Hexbear? They think everything I post is Western Propaganda, why would they ever think that?
welcome, comrade
As I understand it, Hexbear has existed for years before federating with the rest of the network. Someone commented a couple months ago about the closing of the Chapo Traphouse subreddit (2020, same as r/theDonfuck) and users moving there. I believe they already had a strong community before linking up with other instances.
I may be wrong on the details and welcome corrections. Hexbear users: I considered joining your instance when I was still a lurker. Try not to crucify me if I got anything wrong.
Pretty much, the exact timeline is:
2019: Dessalines (and maybe Nutmoic? Not sure when he joined) start making lemmy
June 2020: R/CTH banned
June 2020: they scramble onto lifeboat discord
July 2020: devs make chapo.chat using the lemmy code as an actual replacement for r/cth, at this point federation is not a thing in lemmy yet
~August-November2020: the chapo.chat devs officially fork the code (to add things like emotes, improve performance for their much larger site than lemmy.ml at the time, etc.)
~November 2020: lemmy main code now has federation, chapo.chat’s code is too far removed to remerge, can’t use the federation code
March 2021: chapo.chat renamed into hexbear.net
December 2021: it’s announced that the devs cannot maintain the current fork, and they need to get back upstream to the rest of lemmy code
June 2023: Hexbear gets back close to the rest of lemmy code, still maintains a slight fork, especially for the UI
August 2023: the Hexbears are unleashed
I'd just add that the fork began before the site launched, in that month-long exile period on Discord. Recruiting for the project started on day one, and the deadline got pushed further and further back as we realized the scope of the undertaking. At that point, we had about a dozen volunteers from the community hacking on all sorts of random shit.
We added a comment / post reporting system, added a "site mod" permission (at the time, there were only community mods and site admins, and the site admin page exposed very sensitive operational details), tried to limit the number of embeds which could be included in a single comment (then left it at zero forever due to abuse), added a toggle to shut off community creation, added hCaptcha support, among many other changes. Some of these changes landed upstream early on, but even cherry-picking them was a chore. After the site launched, pronoun tags were added, and we ended up completely porting the UI to React.js for some fucking reason lmao.
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June 2023: Hexbear gets back close to the rest of lemmy code, still maintains a slight fork, especially for the UI
The only reason for this is one of the nerds moved the banner 2 px to the right and the entire community went 
mode.
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I offer you a fishe honored visitor!
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I can't believe these willingly federated instances are brigading hexbear!
Don't they know you're supposed to only stick to your local instance and that anyone who comments from another instance is a bot?
It's funny this is the same user whose comment I replied to 10 hours ago telling them about Hexbear being one of the OG instances (which is why it has a lot of users), but they go ahead and make the same thinly veiled "omg they're botting!" accusation 4 hours later in a whole ass post trying to sneak diss y'all in their home instance.
lots of bad faith actors
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OH THOSE MEDDLING HEXBEARS!
The way they tell it, you'd think everything from DW, to Fox, to Propublica, to straight up AP News articles, are all written by the same people
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Now that's good slop
New copypasta just dropped
th they called us racist 
and neoliberals!
New tagparagraph just dropped
I can't comment on the locked post, but this
Ah yes, the classic wealthy journalist. Everyone knows that reporting is where the big bucks truly lie. I guess it's impossible for literally anyone living anywhere but the like 3 countries that pretend to be communist to report on anything accurately.
Is literally poking at the propaganda model described by Herman and Chomsky. The point isn't that any individual journalist is so loaded that they write to defend their wealth. It's that they're selected for their jobs, and are even considered for them in the first place, because they usefully slot into said jobs for the capitalist owners of the journalism outlets. With a few exceptions most of the journalists at, your choice [NYT, WaPo, Atlantic, Time, etc], are there because their pre-existing beliefs. Perfectly exemplified in this Chomsky clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcpcytUnWU
"I don't say you're self-censoring. I'm sure you believe everything you're saying. But what I'm saying is if you believed something different you wouldn't be sitting where you're sitting."
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Can someone please help my emoji game with some good ones to express exasperation?
If there's something that conveys violent eye rolling it would be a bullseye
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