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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

These electric car companies are so blind to what people want. The market is already saturated with $80k+ gizmo-laden spy mobiles. Where are all the true economy electric cars in the US? Detractors point to these failures as "proof" that electric cars are doomed and nobody wants them, but it's just that nobody wants or can afford the crap they're throwing at us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

its a how many you can produce vs margins situation. not many companies want to take the risk on a high production low margin product, as failure would put you soo deep in the red that you wouldnt come out unless your first product knocks it out of the park.

its why moat. conpanies are doing the top down approach (e.g Tesla, Rivian) where you cater first to the high margin vehicles and then make your way down. given the sales of cars like the chevy bolt and nissan leaf, people are picky about cars they buy, and the problem new car companies have is the one that vinfast has, which is "would an average consumer buy a new cheap car, or a used premium car" and its usually the latter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

All these dumb companies chasing the wrong high margin class imo. Tesla did it right, start with the sports car: the EV powertrain plays well to its strengths, their big advantageous use case isn't 600 mile road trips, and they don't need to tow. Starting with the mom-mobiles and dad's pavement princess puts you on the worst footing by needing obnoxiously large amounts of the most expensive component, needing to meet road trip or towing standards, and catering to a market that by definition has other big spending priorities, e.g. their kids or whatever they want to tow. If Ford's first electric mustang had been a cobra equivalent rather than a sportier electric escape I suspect they would have had a much better time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Fisker? I thought that went out of business like a decade ago? Did it come back somehow to die again?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They did and then Henrik started a new company named Fisker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Seems like this guy doesn't have the best track record with starting car companies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

He starts them just fine. After that, not so much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago