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The main reasons I've seen from vegans for not eating meat seem to be all about the morality of eating a sentient animal, the practices of the modern meat industry, and the environmental impact of it. And don't have anything to do with the taste of meat.

Since lab-grown meat doesn't cause animal suffering, and assuming mass production is environmentally friendly, would you consider going back to eating meat if it were the lab-grown kind?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I don't really see the point, so probably not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm a vegetarian, and the answer is no. I find the idea of vat-grown meat disgusting, like something out of a bio-mechanical nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

how is it different to hydroponic gardens?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Do people know for sure that consciousness emanates from the brain only?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m a lazy vegan. I intend to stop eating animal meat as soon as cultured meat is viable. Maybe opportunistic vegan is the term?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the term here is "not a vegan".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

A potential vegan

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Personally I think it's still kind of gross. I wouldn't judge anyone else for eating it though. It's gotta be less harmful to the environment and animals than full strength meat. Right? It is less harmful isn't it? Guys?

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Yeeeah, it's not going to be environmentally friendly, probably the opposite. In the lab grown meat discussions people seem to forget how incredibly efficient cows are at converting biomass to muscle.

For lab grown meat you'd need a circulation system that can reach all parts of the meat and provide it with enough nutrients, proteins, supplements and all that while also removing by-products such as ammonia that result from chemical processes in the cells.

So you'll end up needing a circulation system, immune system, bones for the meat to not get crushed by it's own weight ideally, recycling system like the liver and logistical system to back everything up, and that's assuming the whole process will be energy efficient.

Adding a brain to it makes essentially gives you all parts of a cow except the cow can largely produce the meat without any oversight and will do all the nutrient differential equations automatically.

We're still decades away from being able to scale this up while being within the same order of magnitude in cost. It's far easier to do a decade of chemistry and biology on textured soy meat to perfectly replicate the flavor, texture and nutrient profile of cow meat. This shouldn't come as a shock since plants are more efficient than animals in creating protein.

I'm personally hoping for genetically modified soy beans that have good amount of the amino acid leucine which is lacking in most plant protein.

Sidenote: We are close to fixing the methane emissions of cows by feeding them a supplement mixed with the feed.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

i'm not a vegan or vegetarian, but from my experience with various plant-based proteins i honestly just do not see the point

we already have perfectly affordable vegan proteins that, while not identical to meat or even necessarily that close, are absolutely as satisfying to chew on and very tasty.

Really, all you need is a chunk of mostly pure protein of any kind and it's doubtful people are going to much notice the difference if it's part of a dish and they aren't given a chance to study the protein in detail.
The only thing you'd really need lab-grown meat for is steaks, which are overrated anyways and like.. god eating steak is such a violently bougie thing! The shelves with ground meat here are hilarious because the cheaper ground pork is constantly completely sold out while the ground beef is barely even touched, so i doubt people would even notice the disappearance of the steak that costs 6 times as much..

Very relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR8M4zARBXY

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