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[-] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 80 points 2 years ago

Unrealistic: in the real version, no awnser would be declared as fact. Even if one is clearly wrong the awnser will always be:

"It is important that we listen to both sides"

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

“If you can’t pound the facts, pound the table”.

— republicans.

[-] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

I'm Sam Reich and I've been here the whole time!

[-] Tamkish@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's gonna be...

* rolls a dice *

16 points taken away from Brennan

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[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Commenting against the Lemmy narrative be like:

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago

How do you shout over somebody in a text forum?

[-] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 12 points 2 years ago

What is the Lemmy narrative from your experience?

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Israel bad, AI bad, police bad, Elon bad, Capitalism bad, Boeing bad, Microsoft bad, Apple bad, Facebook bad, rich people bad, landlords bad, C.E.O.s bad, ads bad, cars bad, SUVs/trucks very bad, piracy good, bikes good, uBlock Origin good, trains good, Linux good, bats good, Ukraine good, protests good, socialism good ...

[-] geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago

Linux good should have been repeated at least 5 times in that list

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

I agree. Cannot repeat that one often enough.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

At the very least it's much better than it used to be. So long as you're running hardware that won't make you jump through hoops to get working, and that's less common and less awful than it used to be.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

i can easily agree with 90% of that. The remaining 10% needs asterisks pointing towards further nuanced discussion. I'll not specify which topics go into which category.

[-] 13esq@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I also agree with most of that, but that doesn't make it OK to downvote opinions to the contrary for no other reason than "I disagree".

If comments of different perspectives, made in good faith get downvoted to oblivion then participation is discouraged, debate gets replaced with circle jerking and Lemmy becomes a very boring and out of touch echo chamber just like Reddit.

Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

So something like this comment: https://lemmy.ca/comment/9747509 Which equates not liking Elon Musk with hate groups against minorities?

Usually when people complain about something like "the Lemmy Narrative" they're usually not bringing nuanced discussion to their posts and are just upset that people aren't agreeing with their "hot takes."

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Shit takes get downvoted. Rational disagreements don't.

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[-] MadBigote@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Do you have an example on why any of these povs are wrong?

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

No, I don't think any of those claims is entirely wrong but I don't fully agree with most of them either.

[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

What's this!? Complexity in your opinions!? Don't 100% agree or disagree on something based on a 3-5 word sentence?! Straight to jail.

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[-] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 13 points 2 years ago

Wow, quite an extensive list. Haven't expected that. Thanks for sharing!

Yeah, I guess there is some truth to it.

[-] Barzaria@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

Lol what maniac would hold opposite opinions for all of these? I like AI though.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

I like AI though.

Burn the heretic! Buuuurrrrrnnnn!

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

dbzer0 moment

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Wait, aide from all the others, "Boeing bad" is just a narrative? Dude, have you been living under a rock?

[-] otto_von@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

To be honest, I agree with all of these. Seeme line I am at the right place.

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

I've heard beans are good too.

[-] 13esq@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago
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[-] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Imo the only actually divisive opinions are around tipping.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately, this is what happens to people who give up on learning and critical thinking. They glom onto people who can shout bullshit in a loud, confident voice because the bullshit is more important to them than the person actually being right.

[-] tweeks@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

And let's face it, everyone is vulnerable to that shit in some way or the other. But being conscious of that vulnerability is the first step.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago

Republican debates in a nutshell.

[-] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 years ago

Not just republicans / politically right-wing oriented folks. From my experience you encounter this everywhere where people haven't learnt how to have a civilised discussion. An important part of this is the ability to self-reflect and distinguish emotions from opinions from facts. Humans are emotional beings in their core and therefore the most are fallible. It's only natural to resort to an emotionally driven and often stubborn defence mode if one encounters a contrary opinion. Even more so if that opinion is expressed in an emotionally loaded manner. It's unfortunately a very counter-productive human behaviour.

And we have that a lot on the internet. Sadly.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Not only right wing, but mostly right wing. The left isn't the side mostly denying the science of climate change, or the medical consensus of vaccines and gender reassignment therapy.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think I ever saw this show. Is it basically the same as the drinking game of the same name?

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know the drinking game.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There's a few variations, but the one I'm most familiar with is like go fish, except you don't have to be honest if you have the card someone else asks for. I've played versions done with trivia, though where you have to determine if the answer given is real or bullshit (which would be more likely to turn into a game show). I've only done the latter like twice and I was drunk at the time so I don't remember the exact rules. 🤣

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[-] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Kevin got the point so he wins.

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