Facts (lemmy.world)
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[–] 22 points 2 years ago (65 children)

Commenting against the Lemmy narrative be like:

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (61 children)

    What is the Lemmy narrative from your experience?

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago* (58 children)

    Israel bad, AI bad, police bad, Elon bad, Capitalism bad, Boeing bad, Microsoft bad, Apple bad, Facebook bad, rich people bad, landlords bad, C.E.O.s bad, ads bad, cars bad, SUVs/trucks very bad, piracy good, bikes good, uBlock Origin good, trains good, Linux good, bats good, Ukraine good, protests good, socialism good ...

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Linux good should have been repeated at least 5 times in that list

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (25 children)

    i can easily agree with 90% of that. The remaining 10% needs asterisks pointing towards further nuanced discussion. I'll not specify which topics go into which category.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    I also agree with most of that, but that doesn't make it OK to downvote opinions to the contrary for no other reason than "I disagree".

    If comments of different perspectives, made in good faith get downvoted to oblivion then participation is discouraged, debate gets replaced with circle jerking and Lemmy becomes a very boring and out of touch echo chamber just like Reddit.

    Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Downvotes should only be used for comments that are off topic, factually incorrect, hateful or made in bad faith etc.

    So something like this comment: https://lemmy.ca/comment/9747509 Which equates not liking Elon Musk with hate groups against minorities?

    Usually when people complain about something like "the Lemmy Narrative" they're usually not bringing nuanced discussion to their posts and are just upset that people aren't agreeing with their "hot takes."

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Shit takes get downvoted. Rational disagreements don't.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago*

    If you define a "shit take" as a comment that is factually wrong and or harmful, that's fine and I've already said that. If your idea of a "shit take" is "I don't like / disagree with your opinion" then I hope you're fine with Lemmy becoming an out of touch echo chamber and I've also already said that. Why am I having to repeat myself?

    It doesn't take much browsing here to see plenty of rational disagreements that have been downvoted for failing to conform with the groupthink.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I can agree to 80% but also disagree with 80%. None of those are simple cut and dry situations and a simple answer is naive at best. And, most importantly, I can say that without sitting on a fence

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (8 children)

    Couldn't have said it better myself. It's nuance that's almost entirely missing from much of online discussions. In my experience; the more I learn about a topic, the more I realize how much I don't know/how complex it is. Then there's also the fact that most simplistic and absolute statements are almost guranteed to be wrong. Not literally all cops are bad.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Do you have an example on why any of these povs are wrong?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    If we were just a few years short of total collapse in a socialist or communist economic system, would it be OK to call either system bad?

    I've worked for so many retail corporations that are so single minded to quarterly earning going up to push stock prices up, they don't even care how much money they actually make, and what they pay people. You can make 2mil a day, and they will fire everyone and close the store because it wasn't 2.000002mil. A lot of things are breaking.

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