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[-] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago

A library is paid though.

Donate to your instance, and decentralize the Fediverse.

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[-] [email protected] 91 points 1 year ago
  1. Of course, people should donate to make Lemmy sustainable.
  2. I recognize that this is true of any website that is not enshitified or, more broadly, is designed to maximize profits. Websites made with libre software are the public libraries of the internet!
[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's like a public library that lets you borrow and read books from other cities' libraries!

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

Yes, we have interlibrary loan.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Instant interlibrary loan!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Interlibrary loans are a wonder of the world and a glory of civilization

-Jo Walton, Among Others

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure most libraries also have that.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That's called interlibrary loan and it predates the internet by a long time.

1876 officially. Unofficially, centuries before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlibrary_loan

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

I'm paying for the hosting of my single user instance.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

What does it cost to host a lemmy? Is that something you could self host?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Looking at the resource usage of mine, a tiny cheap VPS for $4/mo would be enough, sans the image store. But it's not a hard requirement unless you expect to have lots of local communities posting pictures.

Lemmy's issue is that it's non-trivial to deploy and oftentimes painful to upgrade.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah something like the CX22 https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/ which is € 4.51 / month is enough for lemmy.

What I do instead is I host a series of services on my VPS and I pay about 20 EUR/month

  • Lemmy
  • Mastodon
  • PeerTube
  • my ruby on rails website + blog
  • my old PHP website + blog
  • another old PHP blog
  • my sisters PHP website
  • my sisters static website
  • Firefox Sync server
  • my bands static website
  • a matrix server with some bridges
  • a syncthing instance
  • a TTRSS instance
  • another static website

and I probably forgot some things.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

My instance (about 2-5 active users) has a running cost of about $8 NZ, on a small VPS.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You've got a good point: the showerthought kinda breaks down in some cases, like yours! I guess the showerthought applies to public instances such as lemmy.ml

[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't know where I read it, but I also like this metaphorical comparison:

Traditional social media is like a shop, except the customers are advertisers and you, as a user sit on the shelves, waiting to be bought. It's made entirely for revenue and profit, everything else is secondary. The shop will gladly show you an advertiser that pays for your attention before showing you your parent's vacation photos or the important post from that group you follow.

A fediverse instance is like a community garden. Nobody is a product and nobody is buying anything for themselves. Instead, everyone grows the garden together. Some people took initiative and responsibility with running the garden (admins/mods) and others joined and shared the garden with them and supported the garden with funds and content.

In the fediverse garden, there is no other point than talking amongst each other and the garden is connected to other gardens that work mostly with the same principles and the gardens "cross-polinate" each other with discussions and content and through that help each other grow even more.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

neither is running a library

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

People should tip their servers, what they can afford.

It's worth it

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

No one said it was?

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I did a 1 time donation to my instance and the devs that should cover more than a few years of me watching ads.

It's weird though because I really value the idea of supporting projects I like but I find it so hard to part with money when I am not forced. This does become easier as I become more financially stable.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I feel gross hording money at this point. I buy a lot of shit for my hobbies but I hate buying fast food and usually just buy two and give the second away as punishment for the sin.

I'm getting weird in my old age.

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Libraries are paid for by taxes

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Imagine an international tax founded fediverse with Lemmy, Mastodon, peertube and others. My personal dream.

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Taxes are not direct payments and taxes would be collected regardless of the existence of libraries.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Taxes are not direct payments and taxes would be collected regardless of the existence of libraries.

I dunno about where you live, but where I live libraries are funded by millage. We vote to fund the libraries specifically with a tax. So if we didn’t have the libraries, we wouldn’t pay that millage.

Taxes would still be collected, but not THAT tax.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

"You mean it just exists so people can share shitposts and memes? No engagement goals to please advertisers and shareholders?"

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off.

(Self aware double entendre in that statement)

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I think a federation of smaller hobby run sites is going to be the only way to avoid the commercialised Internet, and all the negatives it involves.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

You even get the homeless guy watching porn here.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I just need a place to shitpost for stress relief, I get drawn into deeper discussions but my main goal is to be as thoughtless and as dumb as possible Wheeeeeeeee

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I agree! I donate so that Lemmy is sustainable and so that others who can’t donate have access to Lemmy for free.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Well no, otherwise it wouldn't be a donation

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Well, if you want your instance to stay up you should expect to pitch in for operating costs...

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I donate 12€ a year through OpenCollective. Donate here!. That's 12€ more than any other social media site has ever gotten out of me. Donations also support mastodon.world.

If everyone donated 12€ a year then they'd be so flush with cash that it'd make the Wikimedia Foundation look broke.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

/me taking a 3 hour sink shower in the bathroom

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Mfer people got heroin to do! Wtf is taking so long?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

You might however be watching ads. And probably not realize it.
(Although, to be fair, right now we're probably much too small for anyone to bother doing much astroturfing)

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The irony of my app having (well, trying to) ads is not lost on me.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah... Having ads in an app for FOSS software automatically makes it shit-tier for me. Even if they are blocked. I just really hate ads though.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hear me out. Are we sure that European admins can't ask for national or European funds to run a Lemmy instances?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You pay with engagement. !

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Can I use the printer?

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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. No politics
    • If your topic is in a grey area, please phrase it to emphasize the fascinating aspects, not the dramatic aspects. You can do this by avoiding overly politicized terms such as "capitalism" and "communism". If you must make comparisons, you can say something is different without saying something is better/worse.
    • A good place for politics is c/politicaldiscussion
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct and the TOS

If you made it this far, showerthoughts is accepting new mods. This community is generally tame so its not a lot of work, but having a few more mods would help reports get addressed a little sooner.

Whats it like to be a mod? Reports just show up as messages in your Lemmy inbox, and if a different mod has already addressed the report, the message goes away and you never worry about it.

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