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The footage shows the young women, all of them stunned and some bloodied, being bound and bundled into a jeep.

One of the gunmen can be heard shouting back in Arabic: "You are dogs! We will step on you, dogs!"

Another gunman tells a captive: "You're beautiful."

Archive: https://archive.md/aKqUL

Full footage (NSFW): https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BB8uGxQ1MqQ

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Note that the subtitles here are confirmed fake.

The official israeli editor made rapey shit up hoping that nobody in the entire world speaks arabic.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I suspect that they knew it they would have to correct it, but did it anyway because the lie would be spread more than the correction.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Never thought knowing Palestinian Arabic could become so useful. Sabaya is a very normal word to use for youngish women. Maybe in high Arabic it is a more specific term but in every day language no one in their right mind would think about anything related to pregnancy, that’s just ridiculous. Maybe it’s implied, just like it’s implied in “girl” or “young woman”, but that’s just a very desperate attempt to make it sound more than it actually is.

More background:

In Fusha (high Arabic) there are allegedly like 50 different names for a camel depending on what it’s up to. E.g. it has a different name when it’s drinking, sitting, pregnant, young, old, … very similar to cattle terminology in English: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cattle_terminology

Why I’m mentioning this isn’t because I want to equate women to cattle (please don’t read this out of my comment, that’s not at all what I’m saying just to be very clear). I’m saying it because Arabic is a very rich and complex language. I really don’t know much about Fusha but it can very well be that sabaya means something more specific there in terms of what kind of women these sabaya are exactly. Anyway, even if that were the case in every day language no one would actually try to specifically mention that some woman is capable of getting pregnant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/05/23/955275/

"Reuters has removed subtitles on the video as there are discrepancies between the text on screen and audio translated by Reuters," the news agency said in its release notes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Reuters confirms not all subtitles are incorrect.

Such as "You're beautiful"

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago

It's really weird how they emphasise this "rape and abuse of women" line when things are looking bad for them. It's like they see this as the thing that generates the most outrage, and all they have left say in their defense is "Hamas is evil." So they try to make everyone focus on the emotional response to the horrors on October 7th so it "feels" like this is a fair justification.

They have had this footage for over 7 months. And it just so happens that they sat on it until now, and released it shortly after the ICJ ruling. Hmmmmmmm

They seem to think they can distract everybody with this like they're jingling keys for a baby

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

This is horrible no matter what. It doesn't justify genocide. Palestine needs to be a state in the UN. We need to gain the people's trust and hopefully they will remove Hamas. Continues bombing will only make them want Hamas because they will fight israel.