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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (2 children)

About damn time, they should never have disabled it in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Let's just appreciate the fact that basically no other browser has this.

With chrome/ium you can't even block ads.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now, if only iOS would allow true Safari alternatives. 🥲

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (9 children)

They'll soon be forced to allow sideloading, in the EU at least. Should open the doors for proper alternative browsers.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loathe the very fact they made people call it "sideloading". It's just installing on your own terms, like it used to be the norm.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it's a carry over from its early days in how it used to work. You needed to install things via USB debugger. Generally that's all sideloading ever meant, transferring information from one device to another using a generally "local" method (SD card, USB, etc). Now sideloading, on Android at least (as it retains its original meaning elsewhere), just means not from the official repository.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I just activated Windows 10 on a laptop I bought from ebay, and I was reminded that Microsoft too wants people to view its official store as the default way to obtain software.

One of my goals for this weekend is to set up a dual boot for Linux Mint, which I've never done before. I'm fully aware of its limitations, but I'm getting so tired of all this crap.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I use FF on android for a couple months now. Solid browser and sync to desktol and add blocker are nice.

BUT: their page reloading is far too aggressive. You can't buy anything online, since once 2FA is required and you need to open your bank app, confirm, and switch back, the page reloads and the 2FA didn't get through. Tickets and such are the only reason I have still chrome installed.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is Android aggressively killing apps, not Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Possibly, but previously I've been able to load a site, open a media-rich page in a new tab, then close that tab to go back to the original page.

On a newer build of FF for Android, that first page is re-loaded from the internet.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hmm, I'm not experiencing that. Could Android (well, the flavour used by your phone) be killing background apps too aggressively or something like that?

Edit: could also be a RAM thing. I have 12GB.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not experiencing that issue either and I have half the amount of RAM that you do. I've noticed an unnecessary autorefresh only after closing out of the browser for a long time, never in the middle of switching between apps. But, that does sound like annoying behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

This annoyed me too. I use Firefox Nightly with accessibility.blockautorefresh set in about:config, and it helps.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1204335

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why it was restricted in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there were enough incompatibilities to make it a hassle. But when they were sorting out the Web Manifest v3, they designed it with desktop and mobile in mind, so new extensions won't have problems.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It makes less sense since extensions actually ran on Android, e.g. via Nightly and creating your own list of exceptions. Also if you downgrade and install in an old Fennec version, extension will continue to function if you then update to the latest.

I think the move was an attempt to create a walled garden. But for whatever reason, they have now decided against it. Thank goodness.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe they couldn't guarantee that the mobile version could run well with all of them? That's what I've always assumed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Which I think is kinda weird decision since they could've just hidden a setting that unlocks all addons in the options. But maybe they were so incompatible at the time that it wasn't worth the headache.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

If you use Beta or Nightly, you can turn on dev tools and use a custom addon list from a collection in your user account. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2020/09/29/expanded-extension-support-in-firefox-for-android-nightly/

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Can we have tabs when using a tablet please?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

For those who don't know yet: Firefox Nightly for Android let you install any extension you desire.

You just need to create a custom collection on the web site and link your ID in nightly.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My goodness that's awesome. I never understood why they locked it down in the first place about a year ago. What changed?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

great, now waiting for them to finally fix the supremely janky tab behavior.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice. What I need now is the ability to group tabs together

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you tried sidebery? When I found tree layout for tabs to be a thing I haven't looked back.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you! I am going to install it right now on my desktop PC. I was referring to the android version btw 😂

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Permission to shout hurrah in an annoyingly loud voice sir!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Installed firefox yesterday. Nothing really changed or improved. Uninstalled firefox.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 3 clicks to install AdBlock on Firefox mobile and that alone instantly makes it superior to Chrome.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ublock origin is better I believe.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Ublock origin is actually #1 on top of the list and the one I have installed, I was using "adblock" as a generic term.

As far as I can tell, chrome mobile does not support ublock origin like firefox mobile does.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (14 children)

What is the main reason you (presumably) use Chrome over Firefox? People here might be able to help you solve the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Literally was just telling my partner how much better browsing is since switching to Firefox on android. The ability to install extensions period is a huge upgrade, but also there are several available that are fantastic and not features available on chrome. Not sure what you mean about needing extensions to match chrome features. In fact, none of the extensions I've installed are features present in chrome. Plus I can block ads and trackers, activate dark mode everywhere, and use YouTube for audio with my screen off. I am kicking myself for being lazy. On top of giving Google personal data for no reason, I've had a worse browsing experience for years.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's funny how some people are willing to use weird android mods that can't run half of the apps to protect their privacy while others can't even wait 0.01s longer for a page to load.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's about damn time

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is great.

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