Seriously, couldn't they just extend the tube a bit so it overhangs the exhaust pipe???

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[–] 79 points 3 years ago (12 children)

The entire comment section seems to be missing this is assholedesign and offering the same shitty solutions without addressing the asshole design...

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    No, this is not asshole design. If the oil port was sticking further out, it’s gets knocked off if you lay the bike down. And then you have no oil at all, and a blown up motor.

    It’s by good design the oil port is recessed. Yes it’s annoying to use a funnel, but it’s the preferable option.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    ?? Oil port would only need to be extended by like 0.5" to clear that exhaust pipe, the casing to the left extends probably 1-2" from that. If you lay the bike down it that casing would stop the oil port from being touched. Shouldn't be an issue.

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    [–] 58 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    All this mess could have been prevented with a little bit of cardboard between the drain and the exhaust, you realise that I hope.

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    [–] 40 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    This is super common with motorcycles. The motor should be warm, but not ignite-the-oil hot during an oil change. Clean it up with some brake cleaner.

    Use a piece of aluminum foil to make a little drain to direct the oil over the exhaust.

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  • [–] 60 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I know that's a solution, but as a solution to bad design it's a little bit "Just wear a rubber glove to stop your oven electrocuting you". Yeah sure, but maybe design it better?

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Do you have any idea how much the manufacturer saved in not extending the pipe tho?

    Because I have no clue. Probably wurf rite

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    What they actually probably saved was needing to design a whole separate engine case for each bike in their lineup to match all their exhaust configurations.

    The idea of having a little pipe protruding out is a different kind of bad design. Things that poke out from engine cases tend to snag or get punched in during a crash, turning what would be some scrapes on the block into a completely totaled engine.

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    [–] 20 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Next time just rotate the bike 90° so the oil drains straight out and misses the exhaust. Problem solved!

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    [–] 20 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    I bet the maintenance guide says to use a funnel or something ¯\(ツ)

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Doesn't help for this (or the next) oil change... But look into a fujimoto drain plug. Its a mini ball valve that is spring loaded (so you have to press the leaver up before you can turn it... Also has a 2nd safety in the form of a plastic clip that prevents it from being pressed up). Makes oil changes so easy. For your bike, it might still be too recessed, but the valve has a hose barb on it too so you can direct the oil into the drain pan

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    [–] 18 points 3 years ago

    Well the problem with that is when you lay the bike down, the oil port gets shaved off and you lose all your oil. Don’t ask me how I know.

    So yeah, it’s a PITA to use a funnel, but it’s still the preferable option.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Super duke is like this too I just put aluminum foil over the exhaust.

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    [–] 13 points 3 years ago

    The engineering team that designed the engine never communicated with the engineering team that designed the motorcycle.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago

    That would cost $0.76 more in materials per vehicle, unacceptable!

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Problems such as these are usually a management failure. The design of individual components are often owned by a particular person or small group. They take responsibility for the design and testing. If one person owns the sump and another person owns the exhaust pipe, their work needs to be coordinated in such a way that the finished product meets all its goals. It wouldn't be a surprise to find out that the exhaust engineer had to re-route the pipe in order to resolve some other clash and they ran out of time to fix the new problem before mass production had to start. Making complex machinery is difficult.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    But they saved so much money by having it this short!!!

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    [–] 5 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    What kind of motor is this?

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    [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    It's most likely set back to keep it protected. A bit annoying but probably better than having it stick out and be exposed.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Keeps the exhaust pipe from rusting. /s

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    What's the big deal just spray some degreaser on it then take it for a big rip

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I'm not a motorbike person, but couldn't they sell a 50 cent plastic thingy you could screw on instead of the cap that would make it go into some container even?

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    A lot of bad can be said about Harleys but I love that my 48 just has a little rubber hose with a plug in it to drain the oil.

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