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Are we sure this isn't illegal? It seems illegal

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[–] [email protected] 175 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, I don’t want AI and Robotics, so that was easy.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Counteroffer: we launch him into the sun for free.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Counter-counteroffer: we have him blast himself into the sun and he foots the bill.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You’re a tough negotiator. Approved.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I propose that he gives me his money and then fucks off to the desert on Mars.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It just occurred to me: How many of our problems could be solved if we just started throwing them into the sun?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

They didn’t say “if we could throw them into the sun”, they clearly have a teleporter that allows throwing things into the sun, it’s just how many problems would we solve if we did so.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Technically? All of them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Far cheaper to launch them into a slowly degrading low earth orbit and let them burn up on reentry.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It'd be cheaper to send him out if the solar system though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

But then he might come back

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Probably more expensive than you think...

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's so illegal I think it might even be sufficient to pierce the corporate veil and charge Musk directly with attempted blackmail. I mean, that's what he's trying to do - blackmail and extort Tesla shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago

It only took one shareholder to sue and invalidate his last compensation package. I suspect that same shareholder or a few others are game to try it again, especially if this time it’s coming from a more direct threat to the company and those shares’ value.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago (3 children)

As if he personally has AI and robotics in his pocket, and all the people working for him are vacuous without him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

I may have some names and details wrong here, but Elon is not the brains of AI.

He did start Open AI to find some people with the brains.

Andrej Karpathy was the mastermind of Tesla's FSD. He left the company after it was clear his developments would get FSD solved with enough data and compute. He's no longer at Tesla, but it is primarity his work that everything is based on.

Jim Keller was lead developer of the FSD inferrence chip I think. He also helps develop chips for Apple and Intel. He is not at Tesla.

Emil Talpes is lead architect of Dojo chip

Ganesh Venkataramanan is lead architect of Dojo supercomputer system

What we can credit Elon with is telling folks to make a robo taxi back in 2015 and paying people to do it, but thats about it. Keep in mind he became the richest man in the world for doing this. He doesnt need more compensation at the expense of Tesla and its shareholders.

If Elon died today Tesla would be just fine. I'd argue even better.. A lot of folks I talk to think Teslas are cool cars, but hate Elon's toxic personality and fear his attacks on free speech. They don't want to support such a maniacal weirdo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

These bitches ain't shit with out their pimp daddy!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Back up off the pipe Elmo!

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago

Ok. Deal. You don't get 25%, and you can cram your next grift up your Boring hole.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This really looks like another one of those times that Elon's big stupid mouth is going to get him in trouble just because he doesn't know when to shut the actual fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When has that ever happened? The man has never faced a meaningful consequence in his entire life, that's why he's so awful.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (7 children)

He was forced to buy Twitter. He never wanted it and his bluff got called.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's never any consequences though, he keeps failing up. Hopefully the shareholders call his bluff, but a lot of them buy into the Musk mythos.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is this a thing in business? Do you actually ever threaten your shareholders like that? I am seriously curious here.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's shareholders vs shareholder. Leverage is derived by stake

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Wah wah I've blown loads of money buying a dying social media brand and driving it into the ground.

Give me more money now or I won't use my special money making powers to make this company more money.

Legal or not. Does anyone have any idea what these AI and robotics things, that only Elon holds and were developed by him completely separate to Tesla, are?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

It's Elon, he thinks he has the execution capacity to bring it to Tesla. He's been saying for years: in 2021 there will be robo taxis. It never happened and never will for Tesla. They need a sub $25k vehicle and always have and he fucked it up. If the cyber truck was half the size and not made of stainless it would have been around $25k probably. Get fucked Elon.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

Seems like evidence for an incoming shareholder lawsuit

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

Shouldn't have sold all those shares then. Is he too poor to buy them back?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

You mean AI like Full Self Driving that you’ve been promising and failing to deliver for how many years now?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

I don't think the world or anyone but Elon's sycophants are looking forward to the shoddy AI and shoddy (remote controlled by humans) robotics that he will be capable of.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

...from him. No great loss

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

Wait don’t threaten me with a good time

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When you’re rich and famous they let you do that

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

No, they don't.

Otherwise he could have weaseled his way out of buying Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Promise? Deal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

What a dick

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Ok bye Felipe.

So what are you guys having for lunch?

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