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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy is written in rust, that's a java error so the issue lies with the app you're using not Lemmy itself (maybe)

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cause is a 502 from lemmy.

Jerboa's handling of that error is also terrible but that's another issue.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Memmy doesn’t do well with it either.

Of course it doesn’t bode well for the instance itself that it’s throwing so many…but it’s unclear if that’s an operator problem or a code base problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could also just be a server load issue.

Lemmy.world, the community the instance is hosted on, has been having a few issues between the 0.18.1 update, and the amount of users on the platform.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly the user count at this point, although things have become more stable the last few hours

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Is there a good Lenny app because so far wefwef hasn’t been great for me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Jerboa or just in the browser. Honestly though most people's issues are likely to be because they joined a huge instance which is falling over due to load. Consider making a new account on a smaller instance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liftoff is the best I've found so far. Waiting for Sync to come though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. RIP sync, long live sync!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Wefwef has been the best for me so far. I'm a previous Boost for Reddit user, so I'm still waiting for their official Lemmy release and then I'll switch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Thunder but features aren't all there

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you explain why? Are you using wefwef on Android?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m using it on iOS and don’t get me wrong the app looks beautiful. I’m finding issues with communities not loading posts, comments or general sync issues. I have an issue where trying to reply to a comment would overlay the comments over the textfield.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I’m finding issues with communities not loading posts, comments or general sync issues.

Lemmy's Rust code uses an ORM called Diesel that masks the SQL statements and you really have to watch the PostgreSQL server independently to verify that the SQL isn't doing wild things like loading thousands of records when you only needed 3. Just today people are finally sharing some information out of the big servers (lemmy.world) as to what PostgreSQL side says is actually happening. Hopefully the biggest mistakes are going to get cleaned up quickly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That might be a server issue. Lemmy.world is still having performance issues and just like the picture in this post we are all seeing many errors often.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the explanation.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I am using Memmy at the moment and it’s well decent

https://github.com/Memmy-App/memmy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I am quite liking liftoff. It has a slightly different layout to wefwef and you can customize it a bit if you don't like the default colours.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen this more times than my own family

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Dad, please come back. Mom is hoarding all the meth and Beth new boyfriend isn't even a cartel boss. He's a an accountant for god sake ! AN ACCOUNTANT !

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You know at least it printed an error. I hate when things silently swallow errors.

I'm looking at you, Python programmers:

try:
   <100 lines of nonsense>
except:
   pass
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are not savages now we use

with suppress(Exception):
    > 100 lines nonsense
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Afaik this is not an error from Lemmy but from nginx, which is not able to relay the request to Lemmy and therefore returns a 502 bad gateway response. Imo this just means the servers are over capacity, so most likely a scaling/infrastructure issue.

I had a quick read of the code and it looks pretty solid to me. Not the most "enterprise" code imaginable, but definitely no code smell or quick hacking job.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I read a couple PRs and it seems like the are rejecting the more hacky stuff.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that's Jerboa issue but probably because It received something from the server that it shouldn't

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, the server gave a 502 instead of a JSON and Jerboa doesn't handle that gracefully.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Actually i was trying to say similar issue

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Value of type java.lang.String cannot be converted to JSONObject

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Is it a lemmy issue or a jerboa issue?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Serious Answer: This is a Jerboa issue. Lemmy is written in Rust. The error message is a Java error which is what native Android apps use.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's both, actually. Lemmy is often giving html where json is expected, and Jerboa isn't handling the error well.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

🤔 The server spits out html when it cannot reach the backend. So one could argue it's a configuration issue because the admin didn't provide enough capacity / didn't set up a proper generic json error for backend failures.

FWIW, Liftoff doesn't handle these super gracefully either.

At any rate I think it's kinda awesome that we get to witness these kinds of infancy problems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, what should Jerboa do? Pretend it received content?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Take it as an error, tell the user about it and then retry with exponential back-off.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

It should display a human-readable error message instead of the raw one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it's probably when the app is expecting a json but the server returns an html, which usually happens in case of 502 errors.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If it's Jerboa/Android app issue, why do I get JSON errors using Lemmy on my desktop PC with Firefox? Forgive me if this is a dumb question, I have very little programming knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, this is a lemmy issue. The API specification specifies a JSON response, and the server randomly provides HTML, this is a bug in the server. I agree that Jebora should retry in the case of a network failure (timeout, 4xx staus codes...) but it should not have to retry in a case of a server that is not folowing the standard.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely jerboa

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm having similar errors using liftoff

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've seen this on both Jerboa and Connect. And even just now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
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