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[–] 470 points 2 years ago (30 children)

We are still learning what is best for PC players

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We are constantly limit-testing what level of exploitation our players can endure

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  • [–] 97 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    It's weird how collective action works so well but they only choose to do it for this linking requirement. You could get the rootkits gone as well, gamers.

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    [–] 280 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    "we're still learning What's best for PC players"

    Translation: We're trying multiple predatory methods to see how far we can push PC players and figure out what we can get away with, compared to all the shit shows we successfully pulled off on our own platform.

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    [–] 259 points 2 years ago (30 children)

    This shows the power of steam reviews with it being driven by the actual community. People tried to downplay and belittle its effectiveness, but it being front and center on the store page does have more impact than there would be without steam reviews. If there were no steam reviews the PSN requirement would have been pushed through with it being easier to ignore some random internet comments on social media than a store page.

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  • [–] 147 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Reviews aren't pointless, but their impact only goes so far. I am assuming the massive amount of refunds had more to do with it, tbh.

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  • [–] 109 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I suspect someone in accounting ran the numbers and decided they stand to lose more to reduced microtransaction sales than they would have gained via selling scraped data.

    Though I agreed with you. It's still a win, but we have to be careful not to conflate this with Sony "caring".

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    [–] 219 points 2 years ago (16 children)

    Negative reviews should remain until the purchase restrictions put in place on Steam for non-PSN countries have been reverted.

    Until then this looks like a temporary move for damage control and they'll try this again when refunds are less likely and wont be from restricted countries.

    https://steamdb.info/sub/137730/history/?changeid=23416542

    Democracy has not won yet.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Honestly I’m keeping my negative review permanent. The game is great and I enjoy it, but besides a temporary back lash I want the sting to stick around to hopefully teach companies about fucking around and finding out.

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  • [–] 149 points 2 years ago* (24 children)

    "We're still learning what is best for PC players"

    Well PlayStation staff member, it definitely isn't having people create another account when they already have a Steam account.

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  • [–] 100 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    Also gaming on a PC is 40 years old, what do they still have to learn?

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  • [–] 132 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    How much less bullshit PC players are willing to put up with compared to their console counterparts, apparently.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Uhhhh, people install shit like Vanguard just so that they can keep having their mother insulted in the ingame chat.

    And many people put up with cascades of different lauchers (and accounts).

    So I am glad that there was some push back this time, but it's not like there would be some sane baseline of PC players in that regard.

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  • [–] 145 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just another nail to the bootlicker's coffin of "review bombing does nothing".

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  • [–] 127 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    The lack of humility in their statement makes me think they haven't learned anything.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yea, this reads more like a sorry, this was too forced we will do something more subtle in the future. Not an actual apology.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago*

    They don't even say sorry. They did not use the words Sorry, Mistake, Problem, Wrong, or Fault. They say the approximation of "We see you're absolutely outraged. We've decided to change our decisions. We are always improving."

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Translated: Dear suckers who keep giving us money for half-finished products. We are sincerely sorry, sorry for getting caught. We thought we could squeeze through with this one, but apparently our PC fans are not as gullible as our console fans.

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    [–] 126 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    We're still learning what is best for PC players

    We'll keep you updated on future plans

    Behind the scenes coming up with the future plans:

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    [+] 103 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)
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    [–] [S] 101 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Glorious Victory ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

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  • [–] 86 points 2 years ago (26 children)

    Where are the: "just make an account bro" people now? Probably pre ordering skyrim the definite edition

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    [–] 85 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Shitstorm = Feedback

    Noted...

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    [–] 78 points 2 years ago (19 children)

    For now... 🖕🏽 They worded that so weasely, they're just waiting for the storm to pass and for Legal to come up with some compelling reason why they're totally "obligated" to make it happen, "hands tied" "so sorry" and all that.

    Fuck Sony. They made this SOP way back when, and there's no way they let this stop them forever. It's all about profit, not what "we" want.

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    [–] 66 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Sorry, we'll have to do it in a few months again to see if you still can mobilize this much".

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    [–] 44 points 2 years ago (21 children)

    This has nothing to do with the shitstorm (it mostly hit Arrowhead anyway), and I think the review bombing didn’t affect their decision making that much. What I think happened was, Sony saw the massive refunds. They got hit right into the wallet 😩

    This makes me smile.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    The fact that they specifically mention that date makes me think they're simply pushing the date back

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Have they reinstated the games back in the 177 countries they delisted it in? Can those people who paid for the game still play it?

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    [–] 30 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    OK now they can go ahead with plan B where they allow you to link your PSN account to get some super cool cosmetic. I wonder what the reaction of the consumers will be then.

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    [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So, someone in my Discord channel posted a tweet that maybe alters perspective a bit;

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575881390999207956/1236869629008412714/not-surprised-but-damn-v0-jjr7xh7eqlyc1.png?ex=663a3cdb&is=6638eb5b&hm=3f4ff94b3a29dceb2e973e1e61abcf84c92220571d32a7b05c2966b74ccb241b&

    To summarize or if the link breaks, one of the devs “knew beforehand” they’d have to require PSN accounts post launch, but disabled them for a smooth launch. That’s interesting, but as long as Sony was acting as publisher I feel like the blame still goes on them for selling the game to non-PSN countries initially.

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