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It’s possible that the enforcement of a rate limit isn’t because of AI scraping, but rather because they failed to migrate before the June 30th deadline.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's so fucking funny how Twitter and Reddit are imploding on the exact same day lmao.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spez did say Musk's Twitter was something to be admired and emulated lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They seem really aligned in their goals then!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

End-of-quarter. Companies often make decisions quarter by quarter and 6/30 was the last day of Q2.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I always forget how important quarters are in the business world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Companies would rather cut their noses of in the end of a quarter, to claim a weight loss, than do something that would spell positive results for its lifetime...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, You'd think they would care more about WHOLE dollars!

..I'll just let myself out

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is reddit actually imploding or is it just business as usual?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends on where you go.

Subs like r/worldnews and r/tech have bottom of the barrel comments, but still manage to get some posts.

r/IAmA had many of the mods leave, so the remaining ones are stopping all "out of Reddit" activities, like recruiting celebrities, verifying identities, and so on. It's pretty much worthless now.

Small niche subs are still working, but the equivalent communities on Lemmy are getting better quality right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Worldnews has always skewed a little to the right but the comments I read on a post about the immigrants drowning absolutely disgusted me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There have been some posts where the comments have been 100% memes and off-topic.

IMHO the strongest point of news aggregators like Reddit, is the extra information that isn't in the linked article, otherwise there is no benefit over an RSS feed reader.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

a little to the right

Not just a little.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's too early to tell but I'm spending more time on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to sound paranoid, but it’s kind of worrying.

In recent years, these sites have been used to pass information quickly during crisis. This can be anything like natural disaster, or uprising and protests.

These big aggregators being incompetently, mismanaged and taken down from public use at the same time, makes me wonder if it’s an attempt to quash communication that’s not coming from a government or mega-corp.

The revolution will not be televised.. by the people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeahhhh, I've been getting less news information since moving to Lemmy. The communities are here, but they have some growing to do.

And then there's the issue of them growing into the correct servers. For example, my first day here I caught a mod on lemmy.ml banning a user for posting an Axios article about China on World News because "Orientalism". The article was a pretty common western take on the Xi Xinping succession plan. Really nothing uniquely anti-China. That especially raises eyebrows given the many conversations had about Lemmy's communist roots from its devs.

Which isn't to say Lemmy as a whole is tainted - just the dev community, lemmy.ml. So I ethically feel the need to avoid their World News community and only use lemmy.world's World News community, but that places me into an even smaller and more split community, giving me even less information. All I can think is that I need to be the change I want to see and intentionally post to/comment on the lemmy.world World News community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should try Mastodon for news, it does a better job of it currently. I think lemmy will step up soon but it's not there yet.https://assortedflotsam.com/@NewsBot/

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Image Transcription: News Article Screenshot:


[A screenshot of a section of an article by the news outlet "Engadget". Text reads as follows.]

More platform instability could be in Twitter's near future. In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company's Google Cloud servers. [Hyperlink begins] Platformer reports [Hyperlink ends] Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract's [Highlighted in yellow] June 30th renewal date. [Highlighting ends] Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google's infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is "running behind schedule," putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company [Hyperlink begins] acquired in 2018 [Hyperlink ends] to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline.


^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're doing important work! Just wanted to drop a small correction, the news outlet is actually called "engadget" Cheers!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Autocorrect I swear to God...

Sorry about that! I was doing some quickly this morning while on hold calling the doctor's office so I guess I didn't proofread it great. Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to work for a local company that sold parts to Tesla. They were a huge nightmare and wouldn’t pay us. I think that is their whole deal. Not paying the small companies.

FUCK them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like rich entitled cunts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The Trump playbook.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately that sort of behaviour is common in many sectors where large companies subcontract with smaller companies.

The tactic basically created the whole factoring concept (buying invoices, or using invoices as security for a "loan"/credit).

Over here in Sweden it was construction companies that initially fuelled the development, and the large companies basically required very long payment terms (60+ days) from their subcontractors and then waited to the very last day to dispute the invoice by complaining on some part of the work, further delaying payment. A small subcontractor could often not front being out that much money (2+ months of salaries, materials and other operating costs, cost of fighting the dispute etc) and ended up going bust. Enter financial institutions buying (or "lending" with the invoice as security) the invoice, letting the subcontractor get paid immediately, but of course not the full amount since the factoring company wants to profit from the deal. The factoring companies being backed by large financial institutions (banks typically) have enough money that they can sit out those long payment terms and other "bullshit" since they know those large construction companies ARE good for the money they are owed EVENTUALLY.

Still carves into the margins for the small actors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't you know? Paying your bills is woke

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"Bills" is now considered a slur on Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Imagine if this guy had the controls to the oxygen on Mars

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know what will happen with Twitter. Maybe it succeeds, maybe it fails, maybe it just keeps humming along in mediocrity. But what I do know is that wherever it ends up, there was surely a much simpler way to get there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well he did try pulling out the cables going into the server clusters. Maybe he got tired and bored before he could pull them all out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's ok guys, Elon told his engineers to just rewrite the stack, so all problems will go away!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Im enjoying the shit show Elon is providing. It's definitely entertaining watching a "genius" at work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's probably a combination of self-DDOSing and not paying providers. Which any intelligent experienced dev could've told him, but they all got fired months ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Its almost like the developers were holding the site together.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It's part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism's status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.

The specific moment we're in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn't be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.

Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a bit too much conspiracy for my taste, but for sure, billionaires don't do anything for our good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Billionairs look out for themselves first and foremost. They try to maximise their profit.

Musk wants to push more people to pay for verified. The reddit board (not only Spez) wants people to download their app to make it seem like their growing right before their IPO, while simultaneously forcing more ad views. Probably downloading the app also lets them track a lot of extra data about you as well.

No conspiracy needed to explain all this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The more I've been watching this whole thing play out, the more I'm inclined to believe that something like this is possible.

Unfortunately for these dipshits masquerading as geniuses, the genie is out of the bottle, and there's no way he's getting corked back in. The internet is really all we need, and in the event of the mass coordination required to organize a protest or anything of the sort, the first best option will win. Whether that's Signal, or Lemmy, or Facebook, or whatever. Necessity is the mother of invention and the amount of resources that a pissed off population has will always win out in the long-term. Hell, we'll pull a fucking sneaker net if we really have to.

Reddit has already been compromised for a few years now anyways. I noticed when they started banning people for not subscribing to group think or the more recent examples of permabanning users for anti-Russian rhetoric. There are only a few vestiges of Aaron's original dream of Reddit, found in places like Antiwork or WSB, but they're a drop in a bucket full of site-wide dogshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see that a lot of people complain about reddit, twitter, and whatever mainstream website completely fuck the consumer, but fail to realize one crucial thing. The only time change happens in mob settings is when the pain of no change is greater than the pain of change. I applaud Elon, spez, and who ever else wishes to put there services behind their paywall whether it's an API or just simply viewing tweets. Anyone in the know knows that it's a crock of shit and anyone who isn't is annoyed to the point where change is preferable. The sooner people figure out posting information, entertainment, and other forms of media/knowledge to the benefit of a company is horrendous the better. Now we have the opportunity to get rid of the corporate greed and basically open-source peoples knowledge from around the globe. Although like with reddit, mob mentality poses a real threat to communities like this one, I trust that you all are normal and level headed individuals who can come to disagreements but still respect eachother (as corny as that sounds). I much prefer it over giving more information to companies who use it to profit off of my content, while I receive nothing.

*Edit: Thank you kind stranger for the reddit gold! Glad you spent real hard cash so I can have reddit premium and reddit coins! The lovely people at reddit will be spending your money sitting on a yacht eating grapes in one hand and lobster in the other. I'm sure they are real thankful too! :) *

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What can i say ? I just don´t care anymore about twitter. Also any misfortune for space Karen is just a plus at this point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (13 children)

What's up with billionaires and not paying their bills?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/twitter-ceo-starts-fighting-musks-battles-paying-musks-overdue-bills/

They paid the google bill. So far it’s the only one I’ve seen them pay and who knows if they’ll continue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lmao just how much worse can it get. What a trip Elon

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