Comradeship // Freechat

Yeah, as a neurodivergent person too, I also faced bullying and it was fucking horrible.

I can see bullying still being an issue on the first generation of people living in a socialist society, but as the individualistic ideology starts fading in favor of a more collective one, it will probably become much less of an issue.

That being said, it's probably a good idea for said society to actually teach people how to be parents, teach professionals how to deal with bullying at school, etc. I always found weird how school never teaches kids this stuff in my country. If we learned at some point in the educational system how to parent, it would probably lead to a much healthier family relationships in general on society.

There's also other stuff that can and should be done, like teaching about neurodivergent people, about limits, respect, empathy, etc.

One thing is for certain tho, I cannot see bullying stopping under capitalism.

While socialism does have any specific doctrine for dealing with bullying, a lot of bullying stems from reactionary sentiments and ideas e.g. racism, ableism, classism etc., so by fighting those you'd be naturally fighting the causes of bullying. Social Darwinistic modes of thinking are fundamentally incompatible with socialism/communism.

Bully the weird fascist kids more

I don’t see this as a question about socialism so much, and if it were then I’d say it lacks specificity. It’s a question about a hypothetical socialism in an unspecified society with unspecified history & material conditions. You could look into how existing AES’s deal with it, but again I don’t see this as a socialism-specific thing, and what past & present AESes did won’t necessarily translate directly. It might be up to the concrete—not abstract—proletariat, through democratic centralism, to decide how to deal with it, hopefully with input from specialists in child education and child psychology.

The main reason why some children are bullies has to do with the prevalence of abusive parents, usually. So to fight against this trend is to implement collective day care which would have professionals taking care of children for the large part of their early life instead of parents who are not trained to do so.

i never though about that, i will guess that when comradery relations become the norm instead of capitalist all against all war that we live and other stuff such as the ideal of masculinity be surpassed then bullying will cease

having really small class sizes, like ten or fewer per teacher, would go a long way.

The death penalty; execution by firing squad.

Scientifically, broadly speaking. I can't speak specifically because I'm not an expert in child sociology and I don't know how a theoretical future state might handle things, nor how people might behave in a future state.

But look to initiatives taken in current socialist states (well, most states, really). A problem comes to light, experts are called in, a plan is discussed then voted on then enacted. After some amount of time the results are assessed and any needed adjustments can be made.

I feel like my comment is so vague as to not be saying anything. But the gist I'm trying to get at is that a key component of scientific socialism as a methodology is constant analysis, constant dialectical engagement with the real world, a process of synthesizing theory and practice into praxis, moving abstract notions into concrete results. Universalities are a starting point that get honed down by specificities.

Not to deter anyone from voicing lived experiences, nor silence discussion. Both are essential to developing theories that can be tested. There's a limit to how far we can get with conjecture about a future world, but the ideas may help us think about how to engage currently.

Punishment time but unironically.

Socialist culture and eliminating wealth gap.

I think the question will be entirely open under socialism, because if a lot of better school structures are not viable under capitalism, it doesn't mean that capitalist-compatible education models will instantly be abolished.

I think that making schools as stress free and interesting as possible would take care of most casual bullying. Then more educated staff to deal with extreme cases implying specific conditions might take care of the rest.

That's just my guess though, don't quote me on that

It's very hard to tell since it's hard to think how the schooling system would be and probably would be different based on the local culture, but what I know is that a socialist society has much more incentive to handle this problem with the deserved seriousness, and the fact that the discussions to decide such measures would include the local population I trust that the issue will be contended too, but there is no silver bullet complex problems need complex solutions.

Bullying is a symptom.

A properly funded and supported education system would be able to determine the cause of any instance of bullying.

A competent government that cares about its people would be able to respond to any call from the education system to address an underlying problem.

Step 1: Give brain-dead education system a total lobotomy. Step 2: Fight abusive parents.