submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/technology@beehaw.org
 

I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until Adobe, and therefore my job, required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn't the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.

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[–] 118 points 3 years ago (1 child)

I feel like Adobe is one of the pioneers for DRM lol, They've always kept all their things under some kind of paywall.

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  • [–] 109 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Adobe reactivated my subscription without my permission and now won’t refund me. They have records of my subscription being cancelled in May but can’t explain why I was suddenly billed again in August.

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  • [–] 101 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (14 children)

    This is seriously deserving of an antitrust investigation. An open web is essential.

    *Edit: referring to Chrome and its derivatives, not Adobe. Alphabet/Google has been begging for antitrust action for years.

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    [–] 92 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    What's extra stupid about these, is most of the time just using a user agent switcher to make the site think you're on chrome or opera makes it work just fine.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I do understand it. These are browsers that they decided during development that are not supported. Not supported means not tested by a full QA team for months. And users are generally stupid, soba simple warning (use at your own risk) is something that does not work.

    So they decide to just not support the other browsers.

    To be clear, I am definitely not a fan of Adobe of this mechanism, just explaining.

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    [–] 81 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    The NHS' virtual appointment service in the UK doesn't support Firefox either, only Chrome, Safari and Edge. The dark days of "please view this website in Internet Explorer 6" are creeping closer to the present again. I hate the modern internet.

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    [–] 80 points 3 years ago

    "We can't track you using this browser. Please use one of the following that we have agreements with."

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  • [–] 80 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I hate them more for pioneering Software as a Service rent seeking crap. Why own software when you can become a revenue stream for Adobe. Die in a fire.

    This is crap too tho.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    As a software developer I have sympathy for this business model, but of course pricing has to be reasonable. A piece of software is a continuing social responsibility for the developer to fix new security issues, incompatibilities and bugs. If you only get paid a one-off sum the maintenance can drain you. A continued time-based fee is more in tune with how the actual development cost pans out.

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  • [–] 69 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    I don't understand why Adobe was allowed to survive as a company when Flash player had like 500 security vulnerabilities daily.

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    [–] 56 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Could you just get an extension that changes your user agent? They exist. I wonder if it would work.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I bet it would because Firefox supports pretty much everything Chrome supports. Sometimes a little better.

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    [–] 48 points 3 years ago

    Adobe has been on the DRM bandwagon since forever.

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  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Last Adobe product I used was CS6. That's what the company stuck with, presumably, to avoid shit like this.

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    [–] 33 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    You could use a user agent switcher to pretend that you are running chrome, edge or anything else

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Go Affinity/Serif. Haven't looked back.

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    [–] 30 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    So the inevitable future begins. This will be the standard web very soon.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Only if people continue to give money to Adobe.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Genuinely can't see a future where people collectively ditch adobe. They make industry standard products that companies, educational institutions, professionals, etc... buy.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I used to be responsible for the app portfolio in a 1000+ user company, and every 3 years or so I would go back out to the market and try hard to replace Adobe, just for PDF operations. Couldn’t do it because so many products were integrated with them, often in ways we could not reproduce with other products. The best we could do would be to pay for a different product for 1/3 of the cost for Adobe, and then still end up having to carry a significant number of Adobe licenses for cases when integration failed with the other product. No-win situation, and just easier to stay with the evil we knew.

    I hate them.

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    [–] 25 points 3 years ago

    This is honestly why I have more then two browsers installed. But it is sad this DRM stuff is spreading.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago

    What happens if you spoof the user agent?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Oh, this shit again.

    Remember when websites required the Internet Explorer? It didn't follow Web Standards back then.

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    [–] 18 points 3 years ago*

    What in the actual fuck is this, thank you for bringing this up I will never use an Adobe product ever

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    Thankfully I am not required to use any Adobe products. Seeing this would seriously insult me.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago

    Digital RESTRICTIONS management / DRM is the core of Adobe

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (15 children)

    What are people using to edit/sign PDFs. Adobe is a nightmare and I’d rather use anything else

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    I don't get why PDFs are so hard to open. The format has been around for ever. Why does Adobe have such a grasp on it, and why isn't it as common to open as a txt?

    There are free programs that'll open it, but it's few and far between. It's a pain in the ass to find one.

    Edit.
    I looked it up. Adobe created PDF, but:

    Anyone may create applications that can read and write PDF files without having to pay royalties to Adobe Systems; Adobe holds patents to PDF, but licenses them for royalty-free use in developing software complying with its PDF specification.

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    [–] 15 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    @galaxi What version of FF are you using? I can access Adobe Express perfectly fine (116.0.1 on Win 11 Pro)

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    [–] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I've run into multiple websites like this in the last 6 months. It sucks.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    If safari is supported, then there is no reason to not supporting Firefox. What key features supported by safari required by adobe that's not supported by Firefox?

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