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I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until Adobe, and therefore my job, required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn't the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.
I feel like Adobe is one of the pioneers for DRM lol, They've always kept all their things under some kind of paywall.
HP: I am a joke to you?
Adobe reactivated my subscription without my permission and now won’t refund me. They have records of my subscription being cancelled in May but can’t explain why I was suddenly billed again in August.
This is seriously deserving of an antitrust investigation. An open web is essential.
*Edit: referring to Chrome and its derivatives, not Adobe. Alphabet/Google has been begging for antitrust action for years.
Adobe has already proved they don't understand web technologies when creating Flash.
They didn't create Flash. They bought a company called Macromedia who had created Flash.
What's extra stupid about these, is most of the time just using a user agent switcher to make the site think you're on chrome or opera makes it work just fine.
I do understand it. These are browsers that they decided during development that are not supported. Not supported means not tested by a full QA team for months. And users are generally stupid, soba simple warning (use at your own risk) is something that does not work.
So they decide to just not support the other browsers.
To be clear, I am definitely not a fan of Adobe of this mechanism, just explaining.
The NHS' virtual appointment service in the UK doesn't support Firefox either, only Chrome, Safari and Edge. The dark days of "please view this website in Internet Explorer 6" are creeping closer to the present again. I hate the modern internet.
"We can't track you using this browser. Please use one of the following that we have agreements with."
I hate them more for pioneering Software as a Service rent seeking crap. Why own software when you can become a revenue stream for Adobe. Die in a fire.
This is crap too tho.
As a software developer I have sympathy for this business model, but of course pricing has to be reasonable. A piece of software is a continuing social responsibility for the developer to fix new security issues, incompatibilities and bugs. If you only get paid a one-off sum the maintenance can drain you. A continued time-based fee is more in tune with how the actual development cost pans out.
I don't understand why Adobe was allowed to survive as a company when Flash player had like 500 security vulnerabilities daily.
and Acrobat too.
Because many companies and users were deliberately turned into illiterates about tech by big tech
Could you just get an extension that changes your user agent? They exist. I wonder if it would work.
I bet it would because Firefox supports pretty much everything Chrome supports. Sometimes a little better.
The Adobe message has nothing to do with the technical limitations of your browser and everything to do with their monopolistic nature as a company.
Adobe has been on the DRM bandwagon since forever.
Last Adobe product I used was CS6. That's what the company stuck with, presumably, to avoid shit like this.
You could use a user agent switcher to pretend that you are running chrome, edge or anything else
So the inevitable future begins. This will be the standard web very soon.
Only if people continue to give money to Adobe.
Genuinely can't see a future where people collectively ditch adobe. They make industry standard products that companies, educational institutions, professionals, etc... buy.
I used to be responsible for the app portfolio in a 1000+ user company, and every 3 years or so I would go back out to the market and try hard to replace Adobe, just for PDF operations. Couldn’t do it because so many products were integrated with them, often in ways we could not reproduce with other products. The best we could do would be to pay for a different product for 1/3 of the cost for Adobe, and then still end up having to carry a significant number of Adobe licenses for cases when integration failed with the other product. No-win situation, and just easier to stay with the evil we knew.
I hate them.
Google is worrying me with their ever-encroaching strategy of limiting internet access through DRM
This is honestly why I have more then two browsers installed. But it is sad this DRM stuff is spreading.
What happens if you spoof the user agent?
Oh, this shit again.
Remember when websites required the Internet Explorer? It didn't follow Web Standards back then.
What in the actual fuck is this, thank you for bringing this up I will never use an Adobe product ever
Thankfully I am not required to use any Adobe products. Seeing this would seriously insult me.
Digital RESTRICTIONS management / DRM is the core of Adobe
What are people using to edit/sign PDFs. Adobe is a nightmare and I’d rather use anything else
I don't get why PDFs are so hard to open. The format has been around for ever. Why does Adobe have such a grasp on it, and why isn't it as common to open as a txt?
There are free programs that'll open it, but it's few and far between. It's a pain in the ass to find one.
Edit.
I looked it up. Adobe created PDF, but:
Anyone may create applications that can read and write PDF files without having to pay royalties to Adobe Systems; Adobe holds patents to PDF, but licenses them for royalty-free use in developing software complying with its PDF specification.
Foxit Reader has decent PDF editing built in. I use it all the time. I think they call the pen mode "comments", but you can also load your signature as an image file.
The only time I use (pirated) Adobe Acrobat is when I need to edit existing content in PDFs, like fixing layout or editing text.
@galaxi What version of FF are you using? I can access Adobe Express perfectly fine (116.0.1 on Win 11 Pro)
I've run into multiple websites like this in the last 6 months. It sucks.
If safari is supported, then there is no reason to not supporting Firefox. What key features supported by safari required by adobe that's not supported by Firefox?
