While true, it’s always the insurance and fees that get you. This is why I don’t understand states that post their speeding fines: they’re low enough to not stop anyone, but also don’t give the true cost

Here in Massachusetts

Your first speeding ticket … lose your Excellent Driver Plus Discount and see your premiums rise and stay higher for six years!

Plus that kind of excessive speed will almost certainly also get you reckless driving

For surcharge purposes, reckless driving is treated the same as DUI [or a major at-fault accident]. This could result in a huge insurance premium increase.

Freedom units? You mean the ones used by your British masters?

People regularly do that speed in my neighborhood that has a 25mph limit. The only time I see cops around is when they're looking for the tweaker down the street so they can arrest him for whatever shit he stole this week, have him rat out other tweakers, and immediately release him to do the same thing again later.

In the eagle burger state of SheetzWawa you lose your license if you're doing more than double the speed limit.

I was in traffic court in the 1990s and saw a guy get sent to jail for driving 75 miles per hour on a 25 miles per hour road.

This was in Virginia. The person refused a lawyer. He looked like he was maybe 22. The look of surprise on his face when he was led off to jail was priceless.

In what state is 40MPH over not a minimum 4 point ticket? Even in incredibly lax Michigan, 10 over puts you at 2 points and 15+ is 4 points, and that's only on limited access highways. It's jurisdiction dependent, but you can usually add 2 points to each of those if it's off the interstate. They're also almost definitely going to hit you with a reckless driving charge, especially in a 25MPH zone.

Burgerland can be pretty lax when it comes to speeding and reckless driving, and you might be able to work the fine/points down to that with a good lawyer and having zero prior infractions, but acting like a $200 fine and 2 points for doing 60 in a 20 is normal is just a flat out falsehood.

Noted: if you want to murder someone, use a car.

I wonder what the finnish Mayday psychosis guy got for driving and crashing his Mercedes at like 180 km/h through a narrow and extremely busy street (30 or 40 km/h zone) got. He didn't hurt anyone IIRC but he also could have killed like 20 people. I'll edit this comment when find the video and the verdict.

edit1: the video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpNI2BQYrE&pp=ygUSdmFwcHUgbWVyc3Uga29sYXJp

edit2: ok he "only" drove at 100km/h and injured 2 people. He was accused of 11 cases of attempted manslaughter among other things. All charges dropped.

Apparently he had just proposed to his bride, she said yes, it was the happiest day of his life and he completely snapped. No drugs or alcohol involved.

If we stop treating driving as functionally a right we have to stop treating owning a car as functionally mandatory to having a job and being able to feed and house yourself.

What do you do in the US if you need a job but don’t have a license? You drive anyways and just deal with the risk. The problem is that people HAVE to drive so we can’t really in good faith take the ability to drive away from most people as most when pushed to their limit couldn’t stop driving if they wanted to.

i'm of the opinion that we should have a 2 strike system, first strike means you have to re-do your license from the ground up including any costs and undergo psychological evaluation to see if it's safe to give you a second chance, and second strike means you simply do not get to drive again, tough shit.

A suspended license should however come with a free public transport ticket such that you can get around reasonably, add the cost needed to finance that to the price of getting a license in the first place if that's what it takes.

That will kill adult too

As a finn that had to deal with a week long Erasmus university intense course with mostly german masters students... Yeah, americans of the Europe was the exact impression I got. Everyone else from all the other participant nationalities were respectful and professional, but the german students just couldnt.

Gods, I fucking hated to see the eyes of shame in the german professors faces watching their students go through their shenannigans and fits. My previous stereotype of germans as a nationality or as a culture being rational and collected died very quickly during that week.

Sorry for any germans reading this, but I consider you as the Americans of the EU after that experience.