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I just realised that I have never seen or used it, neither crude oil of course, but there are more variants of it than this natural mineral that powers a lot of the world.

What led to you seeing or touching coal?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Went to a open cast lignite mining operation once. The scales are quite impressive. Once standing at the bottom of the pit vision of the surrounding landscape just fades and you feel a bit like in a wasteland of sorts.

open cast mine

I assume many people are familiar with hydrocarbon gas for cooking or heating. Coal can also be converted to liquid or gas fuel form chemically but the process is quite complex and usually not economical.

Then there's crude oil. Never been near it but its ubiquitous in its refined forms, just go to a gas station.

EDIT: the coal typically used for barbecue (charcoal) is made from wood and is different from the stuff mined from the earth. Many people seem to not know this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I used it at barbeques, other than that no

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yes, drive through West Virginia and you'll see seams of coal in the parts of the mountains they cut for highways.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, I've seen it in train cars being hauled

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

My wife's family are in mining. I've seen coal, coal mines, mine tailings, coke ovens, coke, coal trucks and coal trains, and I've driven mining roads on a family vacation. I have a little vial of Cominco coal as a souvenir.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I used to raise pigs, and I saw bags of coal at the feed store one of the (many) times I was there. Later, I had a small store in town and, as a Christmas gag, I bought one of those bags of coal and some small fabric bags to sell for $5 a pop.

Later I realized that coal can be pretty toxic and I probably shouldn't have been putting it in a bag that was gonna be next to candy in some kids' stocking

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For a good bit of my teens, I lived in an active coal mining town. It was everywhere. People loved grabbing some and making "coal gardens", where you leave a few good sized chunks in water and let the minerals accumulate. Can be rather pretty.

Coal can also be used as a craft, not uncommon to find carved coal statues in tourist areas that have a history as a mining town.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I looked up "coal garden" and it unlocked a memory from my childhood. I think my older sister had a science experiment type of toy that grew crystals like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

They're not uncommon among the other "Crystal/Mineral Aquarium" experiments! They can grow some stunning structures over time, but moving them without damaging the growth can be a bit of an issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I've handled many types of coal. Even made my own. The kind you get from the ground I've handled from visiting old western towns where instead of gold, they had coal and silver mines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah, filled up dump trucks of it. Every year in the fall my grandfather would order a ton (probably more like 10 tons) of coal and it was up to all of us to shovel it out and divide for everyone to use and share

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I have a bolo tie whose slide ornament is carved anthracite.

I've never shoveled coal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I visited a coal power plant when I was still a student in a university. It's like stony charcoals.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I was a huge fan of steam engines when I was younger, so I used to go to heritage railways a lot as a child. Also when I had an LPG car, the place I used to go for fuel also sold coal

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Whoa! Deja Vu!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

We once had a very old house with a cellar that was not used and not built for living there in any way. So you had plain rock walls and it was pretty moist. I do not know why but there was a single basket of coal down there. So I have seen black coal but I have not touched it.

Crude oil I have seen too back in school. My teacher had a sample to be able to show it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah. I grew up near one of Germany's largest open-pit lignite mines. Had a tour of the mighty Bagger 293 as a kid and was allowed to touch some coal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

There are still folk using coal daily round here. In my family circle, the last house to move away from coal was just last year. UK. We have also burnt peat but I think that's completely banned now. Nope, still available but legislation is in the works.

No crude oil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Coal, I had my childhood home heated with a coal fire in winter. Crude oil I touched at an art exhibition. I also remember real creosote! Amazing smell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yes, in 1989.

East Perth to Midland train yards on the footplate of the Flying Scotsman.

The fireman was shovelling coal into the firebox, and it was one of the most concentrated sources of heat I have seen in my life.

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This is my same answer from a very similar post 2 months ago (c:

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From here

https://lemmy.world/comment/7124438

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

When growing up my Grandparents ordered coal for heating purposes in winter. They had big piles of it when the heating period started. There where huge chunks of maybe 50cm length and 30cm width. I guesstimate the whole pile to be around 10m^3. But keep in mind it’s not the most reliable source since this dates 30+ years back and the dimensions have been seen with a little kids eyes. It may be less.

My house I live in today is 100+ years old. There are still some pieces of coal in my basement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Coal for heating at my grandma's place yeah. In the southern US, you can also see trains filled with the stuff going west along I-40.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I lived in a town built on top of a coal mine. You could just go outside and walk a few feet and find chunks of coal just laying around. I also loved by train tracks for a long time and trains full of coal would go by multiple times a day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

My father runs live steam engines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what the English terms are, but we used Steinkohle (stone coal) for barbecue in the 80s and 90s,so I guess yes.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yes! I was on vacation in Colorado and one of the residents there used it to warm their cabin in a wood burning stove. It was pretty amazing actually. One small chunk would heat the entire house to a very hot temperature for hours at a time. I can see why it was a popular option back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Maybe, though I am not sure.

But I did hold a jar of crude oil when I was a kid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, used it for heating, just until few years ago when we switched entirely to central heating, mainly because it become illegal to use coal for heating in my area.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

We still use it to heat our tea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes, in a shallow tourist mine in Australia. Apparently coal starts to flake easily once it's been exposed to air for a bit, so they kept a big chunk in a large jar of water that you could take out and handle. It felt like a light wet rock.

The sample, and the coal at the workface of the mine was stereotypicaly black. We wore hats with lights on, and when we emerged back out to the daylight I had an overwhelming urge to speak in a Monty Python type Yorkshire accent and go home and have my back scrubbed clean of the coal dust by my swarthy tired looking wife while I sat in a tub in front of the fire in the kitchen and our urchins played in the street.

I don't want to give the impression I'm a big fossil fuel tourist, but I've also seen blobs of crude oil on beaches near Mediterranean sea oil terminals.

Sadly, I didn't try to set fire to them on either of these occasions, which I now regret.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Saw a big chunk washed up on a beach.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Use to have an open coal fire in my childhood home. Made many a coal fire. It's very sooty on the hands!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It wasn't charcoal? That sounds wretched. Would it not release toxins into the house?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

It's a rock, you find it laying on the ground. Especially around railyards and mines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah was an old quarry near my house when I young used to throw rocks and sticks of the huge cliff there, was a decent amount of coal around

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I visited a former coal mine that's now a museum. If you take a tour, you get a small piece of coal to keep at the end.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes. Hike up a mountain in Kentucky and it just sticks out occasionally.

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