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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's obviously discriminatory that in this case it's just for Muslim schools and not Hindu ones, but religious schools should all be banned, not just in India, but in all countries. They're just pathetic excuses trying to get around laws to do with schooling, such as the national curriculum, not turning people away because of protected characteristics, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

They’re just pathetic excuses trying to get around laws to do with schooling, such as the national curriculum, not turning people away because of protected characteristics, etc.

Okay this seems a lot like projecting issues with modern Christian schools on religious schools as a whole.

Edit: I made a weird assumption in my head so let me correct myself: This seems like a uniquely Western problem (or maybe the Middle East is unique for not having it).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Any religious primary school in America has this issue. Religious universities less so but still problematic.

The Hasidic yeshivas in NYC are notorious for this. Out of 27 investigated in an 8 year long probe only 4 passed the minimal requirements.

There were "graduates" who never learned English, had no concept of science, no grasp of any history outside of biblical...

They passed a law in 2022 to require schools to pass minimal standards. There are more than a hundred of these schools in NYC.

It is unclear how effective the law has been.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Oh that's fair, then let me rephrase: This is an American (or maybe Western as a whole) issue, not something inherent the idea to religious schools themselves. At least as an Egyptian I've never heard of anything like this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Much like America isn't exceptional, neither is christianity, nor are christian schools compared to any other religious school.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay let me correct myself: I think this is a uniquely Western problem (or maybe it's a uniquely non-Middle Eastern problem Idk), because at least in Egypt this is not a thing, and in fact religious highschools (known as Azhar highschools) are notoriously hard because they teach you everything you'd be expected to learn from a typical highchool and on top of that the classical Arabic and other knowledge necessary for the student to pursue a degree in Islamic scholarship. This issue also seems like it's tied to a uniquely Western attitude towards religion, so I'm not sure how applicable it is to Islamic schools given that Muslims have a completely different idea of religion and spirituality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nice to see someone from Middle East here. Do you know of any active communities or instances for our kind?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nope. We might be too much of a rare breed here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, what brought you to lemmy and what interested you in it? I am a techie myself (I work in tech), and was always into decentralized stuff. I feel like decentralism doesn't appeal to most Arabs though. What was it for you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm a Reddit immigrant. After the API debacle I jumped ship.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

They actually are exceptional. In many countries, religious schools are not for the purpose of avoiding laws of curriculums. Some countries force the curriculum anyways, and said schools can only add their own. In some places, there's not a hard rule to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I went to a Jewish school in the UK, lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

I hate religion, but they should be outlawed universally or not at all. Persecution is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

All religious indoctrination of children should be illegal. The concept of a “religious school” is oxymoronic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A court in India’s most populous state has effectively banned Islamic schools by striking down a law governing madrasas, weeks before a nationwide election that could further polarize the world’s largest democracy along religious lines.

Some Hindus also send their children to an equivalent system known as Gurukuls, residential education institutions where students learn about ancient Vedic scriptures alongside general subjects under a “guru” or teacher.

It is governed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and has over the past decade made headlines for passing some of the country’s most controversial laws that critics say discriminate against Muslims and marginalize them in the secular republic.

At the start of the year, for example, Modi presided over a landmark inauguration ceremony of a controversial Hindu temple built on the ruins of a centuries-old mosque that was destroyed by right-wing groups in 1992.

The temple’s opening, which was broadcast live by the government and hailed as a new era, was the conclusion of a decades-long campaign by Modi and his BJP party to pull India away from the secular roots upon which the country was founded following independence.

Many Muslims and critics of the BJP have raised concerns that India’s secular fabric is also being eroded as anti-Muslim hate speech make frequent headlines and Muslim-owned properties face demolitions.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Good, religion doesn't belong in schools

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Yes, but considering the context...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Love how cursed the comments in this thread are lol.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I wish I could say I'm surprised.