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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The sheer scale of the China industrial complex equal parts impresses and scares me, but nevertheless this is a huge achievement.

It’s always quite interesting that western governments like to try and lay blame at China’s door (despite the US still being the largest historical carbon emitter) but here they are shattering renewable energy records. We need other governments to do this sort of thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone wants to appear as if they care for the climate, yet deliberately delay their plans for green energy. It's like you said, we always blame China yet they usually do shit pretty fast. All I hope for is that they invested into proper materials and technology so that this green energy lasts a long time for them.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, here I am in the UK and just this morning the prime minister announced a roll back on the pledges for onshore wind because they want to appeal to the NIMBY’s. Does my head in.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That's why politics shouldn't be a popularity contest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Everyone wants to appear as if they care for the climate, yet deliberately delay their plans for green energy.

I'm even suspicious if China building renewables has that much to do with climate. Maybe they rather care about cheap energy and energy independence. Which in themselves are two great reasons. For western countries, add recognition of climate urgency, and it becomes even more incomprehensible why this is such a political issue.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even if China is controversial, amazing that they're (somewhat lol) turning to green energy instead of coal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Green energy is just better

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There are a few reasons. Firstly it’s in their own interests to protect their people from huge climate change. Secondly renewables are cheaper than coal, without the same variability of supply (Australia had political falling out before and Russia may not be the very stable genius we think).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good thing, but I don't get why everyone is so impressed by this. When you're a dictatorship, have a billion workers at your disposal and everyone just falls in line, of course things are going to move faster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I guess for me it’s just the amount of dithering and delay by most governments around the world, it’s incredible when a government actually does something.

On the flip side, there’s obviously all of the human rights abuses committed by the CCP, and it’s a lot easier to make a lot of progress very quickly when you can silence people who oppose you and force people to comply.

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