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When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.

To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.

What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

When The Orville came out, I hadn't watched much Star Trek. Growing up, TNG was the one television show that my parents would break the "no TV at the dinner table" rule for, though it happened rarely enough that I really have no memory of it.

About 20 years ago I watched several episodes of TOS and liked it well enough.

I always wanted to like Star Trek, so ~10 years ago I tried season 1 of TNG, which I now realize is rather universally considered an error; and as a result, I didn't much care for TNG. But I still wanted to like it, and Star Trek in general! So when I saw The Orville, I decided to give it a shot. And while I agree that the early mix of comedy with more serious material was a bit off-putting, I thoroughly enjoyed the show. This was what TNG was trying to be (I mean, that's not really fair, but it was my initial sense).

Which then led me to season 3 of TNG, which I started watching last year. And I absolutely love it, and find it overall better than The Orville (which I still really like); but The Orville was basically my gateway to actually enjoying Star Trek.

So maybe I'm coming inside-out from most viewers, but I really like The Orville, and as a bonus, it got me "back" into Star Trek proper.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I was surprised by how good season one was. Season two was great fun. I hated season three.

I feel they tried too hard to make serious points and failed at telling good stories. They wanted to have big thoughts, but just weren't entertaining.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I don't regret watching it—and I'd probably even throw on a new season if it gets one—I felt like it was missing any true classic episodes. I also kept having this strange sense of familiarity with episodes, as if it was just repurposing or rehashing older Star Trek plots.

I kept thinking, "Wasn't there a TNG/DS9/Whatever episode that explored this same general concept/idea, but better?". It felt like it was maybe borrowing just a bit too much from it's inspiration.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times

That's Seth humor in a nutshell.

Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough

Name a show that started off any other way though. Even SG1 is cringe in the first season. Lexx maybe, but even that one grew different after the first few episodes.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It took me a few episodes. But now I think it’s entertaining and wholesome!

It’s my utopia of what humans could become in the future

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Wait until you watch Star Trek!

In all seriousness, Star Trek does an amazing job at this. It's a fully fleshed futuristic utopia. The many episodes and movies that go back in time are hilarious, as they show the dichotomy of future utopia and the "dark age" present in a great way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Cheesy but a different kind of cheesy than Star Trek.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I loved The Orville when it was coming out, it scratched an itch that nothing else at the time did, but while it's been on hiatus/canceled we have gotten Star Trek Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks. One does the firm sci-fi with a relatable crew better, and the other does the comedy Star Trek better. I wouldn't be opposed to more episodes of the Orville, but I don't think that it is as needed as it was when it was coming out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Season 3 was not good; it was heavy-handed writing and wasn't all that good drama.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I loved it and it's definitely on the list of shows that I'll rewatch sometime sooner or later

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I did it backwards and started watching Star Trek shows because I love The Orville so much! Hoping it gets renewed for another season soon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Blatant self insert early TNG fanfic. If you liked (or even wrote) that kind of thing in the 90s, you'll like Orville.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I wished I could have gotten past the awkward comedy you mention. Couldn’t get into it because of that.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I like it, want more seasons to come out. Now that I finished the Orville, I need to go back and finish Farscape

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Actually I think much like Strange New Worlds, I think that it showed me how much of the recent issues I have with Star Trek is that it takes itself too seriously. (In fact also as for Star Wars, as blasphemous it is to mention here)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hated the pilot, never went back

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Best modern Star Trek show.

By "modern Star Trek" I mean every show from Discovery to Strange New Worlds.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I liked that they weren't the most important ship... and then they became the most important ship. Near the end the fate of every species in the galaxy hinged on the love life of three couples on a minor starship.

It also felt like they had 2 or 3 seasons of stories and hulu said "you get one", so they rushed it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I stopped after watching a few episodes. I guess it just wasn’t for me. Most people I know like it though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I thought it would be a parody show at first but its good casual sci-fi entertainment. I liked the first two seasons better than S3.

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