I hope you're right, but my cynicism has doubts.

Completely agree except you forgot Rogue One.

Also, the Han Solo movie was OK.

Prequels were bad, sequels were worse. Mandalorian was good but ended meh. Ahsoka looks promising.

Thank you! I appreciate you and everything that you do!

I like what you said but I strongly disagree. We are not some agency that should hesitate via "guilt by association" when it comes to Nazi or similar right-wing ideology. It is not a slippery slope.

The amount of money spent by nation-states used to prop up these organizations and their ideologies, who are then responsible for misinformation that results in political power shifts that has destabilized the world makes it simple for me.

People are actually dying because of this misinformation, and it is a clear MO to take over social media platforms. Controlling this bot-infestation tactic is impossible, but mitigating of such influence on Lemmy it is absolutely necessary.

So yes, absolutely either defederate or otherwise get rid of any Nazi.

Quick edit: I take back most of what I said above. I'll leave it there for posterity.

What I mean by "take it back". The admin over there (I can't quite see his name... my eyes are not great) is trying to grow his community and didn't realize how bad some of that actually was. The final screenshot DB0 mentions that it seems reasonable at this time to hold off, since the account were banned. For now.

I'm a lurker at heart, but I'll subscribe over there a try to post some things that are not harmful to the social structure. I tried something like that when Voat started up years ago,and it didn't go so well, but Voat had bigger problems.

I'm confused on how to vote. The vote tally shows for/against, and then "outsider sentiment support", and I'm not sure what that is, and also who and how gets to vote.

Also, I'd like to vote and that's what I really care about.

Defederate that shit quick.

I'm not sure if it's possible, but ban/block those accounts as well. Too bad we can't do more about preventing those cancerous people from doing more damage.

MathGr

Edit: I take back my unofficial vote to defederate. We should wait and see.

Also, lots of love out to our Admins here for (1) noticing this, (2) attempting to rectify and and (3) being reasonable (i.e. not using a sledgehammer) when it seems that appropriate steps have been taken at this time.

However, having seen this right-wing cancer destroy other social media platforms, I want to stress that we should be as proactive and ban-happy as we feel appropriate, because this shit is not going away.

I was there for the early days of Voat, which was an earlier version of a Reddit clone. Those first few months were nice, but it quickly devolved into a hate-filled N*zi safe haven.

Fediverse has an early version of a bot problem, which is ubiquitous in all social media these days (thanks to state actors and also corpos that want you to think/feel a certain way). idk how the fediverse is handling the bot problem, but for now it seems to be less noticeable here than other places.

If the platform is truly "free speech" without any moderation, then it will quickly devolve into worse than 4chan.

Voat is gone now, which is a good thing, but if you have an programming background you can use an LLM to study the way it self-destructed by looking at the archive.org snippets. See how it quickly became theDonald but worse.

That is what will happen to this un-moderated decentralized social media protocol.

Pencils. The ones where you need a pencil sharpener to sharpen them every so often. Mechanical pencils just aren't the same.

You are absolutely correct. The unfortunate fact is that propaganda works. Even if you know it is propaganda, it still works.

A bit like a placebo in that regard.

I would really like an open-source alternative to Facebook. The connection idea with friends via a social network platform I like, the bots and ads and force fed (propaganda) news I really don't like.

Plus, an open source Facebook would really hurt Zuck and that's also a win.

Thank you for trying to get ahead of the spam influx. Trying to beat the spambots is a thankless task, but thank you anyhouw.

Thank you for the article OP.

While this doesn't surprise me, I can't help but wonder how many other parallel situations there are where an industry of many separate entities distort, hide and otherwise lie to the public to maintain the publicly harmful gravy train.