Isn't it funny how the anti-"tankies" are always the most bigoted people?

<---me and the huge fucking mess i've caused

really burying the lede that one of their admins loves the harry potter and the protocols of the elder goblins game, that's reason to defed alone

pretty good chance if you come across a programming.dev user commenting on hexbear it'll be some reactionary shit, too

If there's one lesson to be learned from federation, it's that shitty admins lead to shitty instances.

It was also always sus that they blocked a bunch of our comms by default

Also why is the other admin putting out this statement? Is the snowe still seething and crying too much to apologize?

This genuinely read to me as them using "triggered" in the other sense, like "caused," as gets used in programming speak sometimes. I would never try to argue this as being true because I feel silly in retrospect, but just thought I'd share.

i dont understand why we're federated with hacker news fuckos in the first place, they should stick to the orange site where they belong.

I read Ategon's post and while I appreciate their attempt at reconciliation(?), when you look at the actual internal changes they're making:

• admins will be required to have two accounts, one for admin activities and one for non admin activities. This is how some admins have already been interacting in the fediverse and basically makes it so comments done on the non-admin account should not be taken as that admin speaking on behalf of the instance. Generally the admin account will be things done relating to admin duties (e.g. my posts here in meta) while the non-admin account is other various conversations. Admins can be as anonymous as they want with the non-admin account similar to how our users here can be as anonymous as they want with their accounts
• im adding in some guidelines for tone while chatting for the admins so comments made that are on behalf of the instance should be respectful and not devolve to slap fights

Adopting an official policy of making admins use alt accounts for "non-admin activities" (which includes posting problematic garbage) doesn't seem to address any of the problems that led to this, other than allowing the instance additional plausible deniability for their admin's behavior. Really doesn't seem very transparent to me.

I'd rather know what the admins of an instance stand for and are all about by their posts, so I can make an informed decision before engaging with any of the comms on their instance.

chuds suck at coding

I don't even have to look but you know it's true

I am surrounded by people like this on a daily basis and would approve of this.

To be fair,

1. They're throwing snowe under the bus and openly blame them for it further down. This is a bit of context that I guess is kinda excusing it, although in my opinion your third party program messing up an interaction with someone is a problem that could easily be resolved by realizing you made a mistake and fixing it, which snowe of course didn't do. So maybe they're giving too much credit to a bad admin but I don't think they're really defending the behavior.

2. I think the triggered has an unclear antecedent, but I read it as "a branch of the conversation was triggered (as in caused/set off)" not "a user was triggered."

That said, I don't really have strong feelings about programming.dev. They don't seem to show up here much but it's a mixed bag when they do.

Some rules lawyer is gonna say this has to be in the official defederation nomination thread so I'll go ahead and paste it there.

once again I am proven right about bazingas.

I’m a simple bear, I see defed and I say “yes”

Hey im Ategon, wanted to clarify some things about the situation

Used triggered in the sense I typically do with coding which is the action of triggering an event to occur. Ive edited it to started to make it more clear

snowe currently has limited internet which is mostly why ive been handling everything and im the one doing things like making the posts, etc. I was able to talk with him about the situation but there hasnt really been time for him to publicly talk about it properly

the comment from snowe was due to it not being relevant to the initial argument rather than targeting the content of the pronoun response itself, It is ambiguous when reading though. Ive been mostly talking to blahaj for now since thats been taking all my free time for the start of the day but im going to say here sorry to you guys as well for this situation happening since it was mostly hexbear users in the conversation