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What's _______ for you guys? Also, I truly believe they don't know. They just say no, out of some bizarre corporate reflex.
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For me, ________ is basically all sports games that have ever been broadcast. Most of them are just locked away somewhere, with literally no legal way for anyone to see them.
Just play Xonotic or Warsow or something.
I've tried various ones like that, but the player base is tiny and fragile. That's not anyone's fault, but it is what it is. I've bought enough of the ones that never built up a solid playerbase that I'm entirely gunshy about it, now.
EDIT: Oh, wait. Those are free. Okay, nevermind.
Also, I think I did play Warsow, years and years ago. I should give those a try. How is the playerbase looking for them? Are there enough people to find good matches, at least on the weekends?
EDIT 2: Actually, you know what? Your suggestion really doesn't go very well with the whole premise of this conversation. We're talking about greedy media rights-hoarders, keeping us from consuming very specific shows/movies/games, from our youth. Not genres or categories. Specific titles.
What you're doing is pushing a Trojan Horse into the conversation. At first glance, your suggestion looks like it fits with the rest of the conversation, but I think it's really just a way for you to sneak Free Software Fundamentalism into the discussion.
I appreciate the Open Source and Free Software movements, but we're talking about specific pieces of media, here. If we're lamenting that it's difficult for us to play "Unreal Tournament," it's because we want to play THAT SPECIFIC GAME. With all due respect, it's not the place for you to pull out the Free Software Fundamentalist playbook, and start going "ackshually, you don't need that specific game you have real memories from. This supposedly equivalent Open Source replacement is just as good!"
If that's really not what you were doing, I apologize. But it kinda smells that way.
Bro. I just like these games and they follow the same playbook as usual tournament. Well they're really closer to Quake.
I do be into free software though. Money actively works to make things worse.
In many cases, but not all cases. I want money to go to the people who are actually responsible for innovation and creation.
You, on the other hand, are clearly one of these head-fully-in-the-clouds people, who literally want all the world's highly skilled software engineers to have full time jobs at Wal-Mart, then take a short fifteen minute breather, before putting in an 8-hour volunteer shift, developing all the software that we'll all gleefully use for free.
"Keep that nose to the grindstone, engineers. But no patents for you. We've decided ALL patents are evil. In fact, no compensation AT ALL, for you. You'll be rich in spirit, knowing how many people are benefitting from the sweat off your brains."
You sure seem to know all about me. /s
If everyone did real jobs, the rest of us could have the time to do our art without the stranglehold of the entertainment industry. Instead features get removed year after year.
Money doesn't favor engineers. It favors domineers.
If I made a piece of software worth ten minutes of your time, how much more valuable is it when the entire world can have it and use it however they like than if it's just the people who pay me and have to abide my restrictions? Do you think none of our 8 billion people are making good things for the sake of it? You'd be ignoring those of us who already do despite the existing friction.
You can crack the money whip and make your people build you a pyramid in the desert, but I'd rather pass around seeds and let trees grow wherever there's dirt and water.
I realize that I got us waaaaay off on the wrong foot, and I want to stop it right now.
I have been guilty of doing what everyone left of the exact political center always does: pick fights with other people on the same basic team.
I mean, maybe you even consider yourself a libertarian, or fully unsubscribe yourself from any of these terms. Whatever. The point is, I think you and I both agree that the major problem in ALL industries = 1% capitalists, sucking up resources and being basically the only ones getting paid, despite doing essentially none of the labor.
I recognize that I was being incredibly rude to you. I apologize. Can you at least admit that maybe I'm not guilty of "cracking the money whip," just because I want to see the actual engineers and creators being rewarded and living good lives, rather than eking out horrible existences, and yet still being expected to create all the software, gratis?
Basically, I don't know how you would fill in the following blank: "In my vision of utopia, software engineers would get the money and resources they need to live from _______."
I honestly don't fully know how to fill in that blank, myself. But I'm just saying, I don't believe the best idea is to have people acquiring all the complex and complicated skills necessary to make complex and complicated products...but then having to work jobs that are completely unrelated to software engineering, and only donating their truly rare engineering skills, in their spare time.
If anyone is to receive profits from software, it should be the engineers who create it. Just as a wild stab in the dark, I would suggest that software patents should still exist, but should be drastically cut from their current length of 20 years. And they should only be held by the actual people who do the actual innovation and creation. And they should get all the related money, rather than some goddamn holding company who employs them. And no copyrights for software (with the exception of narrative elements, in games or interactive entertainment software).
You might still disagree. You might still believe it really would be better for people to drive a truck, or pick fruit in the fields, or be a hairdresser, or whatever, and literally just donate their time and skills to make software. I believe that would be impossible, in the case of incredibly complex stuff, like most modern hardware drivers, advanced simulation and rendering software, etc. You have to devote literal years of study time to gain the background that you need, to even begin to contribute to that stuff. There just won't be enough pure, part-time volunteers for that.
But maybe you think those engineers should simply be paid by the state. I'm actually open to that, even though that surely has its own pitfalls.
All I'm saying is, I'm not some kind of raging anarcho-capitalist, just because I personally want the engineers to get compensated. But even then, not to the point of excessive, stupid wealth. I am on the "eat the rich" team, through and through.
Universal basic income. The profit for making good software for nothing is the fact that you also benefit from everything else everyone else is also making. Value goes through the roof and nobody is rich because rich is just a comparison to others. Someone's gotta be poor for someone to be rich. Quality of life cannot be measured in dollars. Quality of products can however. People should not be measured by money. People should not be forced to do shitty work just because that's the only thing available to them. Do you think people become plumbers or garbage truck drivers because the amount of money reached the point where it's agreeable? No, they do that because that's just the place that didn't trash their resume.
I think pay should be a trade off for the downsides of a job, not a reward for prestige. Look at famous actors. They're generally pretty good at what they do, but I would do what they do for just enough to get by because the shit looks fun!
If everyone has their net worth reset at regular intervals and the same baseline for income, people can't be cornered into dead end jobs. The tools and systems society are built on will be again be tools that serve humanity rather than rank us.
All the software that matters already exists. If you're doing something anyone thinks is awesome, they throw money at you. People will throw money at you for just being pretty on YouTube.
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