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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

communist propaganda

It's like you know that these are words, and they're words that you've seen people put together in the past, but you have no idea what they mean.

Where is anyone talking about communism? Where is the propaganda? What the fuck are you even talking about??

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where is anyone talking about communism?

Lemmygrad.ml, I assume? I dunno if it's "propaganda," though, mainly because I haven't really seen much from that instance. It isn't defederated or anything; it just apparently isn't popular enough to show up in Active/Hot/Top.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I see a lot of communism good/capitalism bad meme content in lemmy.ml in general. Now I'm really not against communism and I absolutely see the negative effects of western society's brand of unregulated late stage capitalism, but political meme content in general is just entirely devoid of all nuance to the point where people are seriously dropping silly statements like "capitalism is the sole contributor to climate change", as if if you could turn off capitalism climate change would just stop lol. It's straight up propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That and conveniently ignoring any negatives involving China/Russia.

There are a few users on Lemmy.ml who I see all over the place. Half their posts will just be funny "lol capitalism sucks, amirite?" memes and the other half will be "Look at how China is ushering the world into a golden age of social and economic progress" or "When will the west acknowledge Ukraine's Nazi problem?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They often seem to blame capitalism for the fact we're not in an impossible utopia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed, seems like "capitalism" has become analogous with "greed", which I mean, they sort of go hand in hand, but that doesn't mean greed doesn't exist without capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think people also conflate social democracy with socialism, and/or communism.

And communism with Stalins dictatorship (and Xi etc etc).

The ideas behind the ideologies are all interesting but only democracy have proven "not horribly killing a large part of the population and a large part of the neighbour population" like all the time

So for me anyways, it's full democracy, then tack on socialism (for example).

I think the discussion about democracy is also largely non present, I mean how fun is it if other people just decide what they want and you can like object every X Years?

We got democracy 0.1 let's move forward!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

it's kind of like how USSR/Russia was seen bad because of communism, and now since 1991 they are not communist so they are the good guys.

It is the same freaking country, they just embraced fascism over communism in the last 3 decades.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People are confusing pro-china and pro-russia users as "pro-communists" even though they don't ever mention communism and only comment things that benefit the dictators running these two governments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're on different instances, bet our top day looks very different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I understand how lemmy works... I meant in these comments specifically. Otherwise the comment was a complete non-sequitor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Huh? The comment I replied to is about disinfo and hate in online media, Lemmy is online media. I was making a joke about the content I see regularly, and clearly it landed perfectly.