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Yeah that's about unions, in active negotiations.
You are not in active negotiations. You are in the end game. You have very few possible choices, and holding out (not voting) does not empower a track of choices, or opportunity. It only silos you into a particular choice.
"Sticking it out" does not better your scenario, and especially does not better the scenario of the most at risk.
Quit bolding shit, I know how to read.
Nope, MLK acknowledges that protest is meant to bring them to negotiation, it's not just when you're "in negotiation"
This is exactly the type of direct action MLK is talking about. You just find it personally threatening, and far be it from me to suggest that's the point.
You have no opportunity for negotiation, you have a binary choice in the upcoming election.
Edit also you included more text, I didn't declare verdict on everything MLK said, only that specific quote. Shitty behavior
Well then. Youve handle this comment chain well. Bravo, comrade. Thanks for trying so hard, my hats off to u. The troll might be a lil fed, but this is a public forum and ur conversation is visible for all to see.
Replying to one of the comments a lil higher up for visibility, but i enjoyed all the way down. Pleasr dont stop preaching <3
Hah I wouldn't actually wear the comrade title, I'm not that far left, but I do believe building a real progressive candidate is important, and a real third party would be great.
But I'm more a realist, and there certainly aren't a lot of options in this next election. That ship has sailed. All I really know is at-risk and marginalized folks are in GREATER danger with trump, so I'm all about avoiding that.
Sounds like a comrade to me. Your ideal society might not look like mine, but when it comes to it, you and i will need to be capable of standing/marching/striking together to make changes happen.
I will vote for the lesser of two evils to keep our ability to do all those things alive, and if streets get closed or the upper classes gets uncomfy bc leftists are trying to give workers somewhere better working conditions, i only ask that u underatand and respect those efforts as well and dont give in to corporate propaganda that the far left is evil, even if the road youd recommend is different.
Solidarity to u, solidarity to the working class, solidarity to the queer, and solidarity who wants any leftward movement from where we are, comrade.
Lol there's 7 months of negotiation left, wtf are you talking about "binary choices"
And I don't care if you think my behavior is shitty, or if you take issue with my agitation.
No, the frontrunners are already decided. You are in an outcome restricted scenario weather you like it or not.
Edit trump or Biden will be your next president. How will you aid one of those 2?
Nothing else is possible regardless of your ideals
Don't be dense.
Biden needs to move on this issue, otherwise he can't count on our vote. We all know Israel has crossed a line, even him. What's being asked is reasonable. It should be a simple choice for him.
Don't pretend you don't understand what's being asserted, dipshit.
Uncivil. Is that all you are?
You are approaching a 2 party, constrained system. Only one will win. How will you factor in?
Explain your choice, in detail.
And by choice, I mean voting action. Account for all byproducts and externalities.
What choice was MLK making when he organized boycotts in Burmingham?
Why are you pretending like our choice is flexible, but Biden's is fixed? Why are you so eager to accept the binary as given instead of pushing back against a pair of clearly untenable options?
Instead of hounding people online to vote for Biden in 7 months, why aren't you protesting his events and pleading for him to reverse course on Israel?
You have no clue what I do with my live. Your voice is flexible for the future. Your choices in the upcoming election are limited to 2
And I 100% reserve the right to tell Biden to pound sand if he doesn't reverse course. And being loud about that ultimatum gives Biden the choice between continued support in genocide and being reelected.
I agree the second choice is better, if only Biden agreed himself.
Good for you, we all have that choice.
Just be aware choices have consequences.
I highly encourage you to press Biden to fix what he's broken if you feel strongly about him not losing.
You know, as a member of the military, it's gonna be real interesting if your team follows what you do and we get the other guy as commander in chief again. I'm just saying, I'll probably survive, be fine even if I hide my beliefs again, but your smug "both sides bad" smirk will probably not last all that long with said other guy in charge. Unless you're into that, in which case, hey, I'll try to not be on duty wearing the jack boots as much as possible.
Try not to get too excited there, bud