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What crime has Trump been convicted of?
By conservative logic as applied to Democrats, merely asserting something makes it true. So Biden is guilty of "dereliction of duty" because he's "ignoring" the border, of "treason" because of his unproved involvement in his son's foreign business deals, or most relevantly, is guilty of commandeering classified documents despite not being charged for anything.
So, merely applying conservative logic to conservatives, which is only fair, would mean that Trump is a criminal given his eighty-eight indictments, many of which are federal charges.
Political charges. Notice how the Democrats keep failing in court against Trump. Their attempts to stop him from running have only made him more popular.
If Trump wins, it is because of the banana republic that the Democrats tried to create. Had they just ignored him, he wouldn't have gained in popularity.
The charges against Biden are also political then. Notice how Republicans have failed to pin Joe Biden for the crimes of his son. That's why those charges are political. They're certainly not backed by evidence.
When Biden wins, you'll see that Trump's fascist movement (I use that term knowing what it means probably more deeply than you) will never simply wither away on the vine form neglect. It must be rhetorically confronted and humiliated at every chance.
Well the classified documents they stated he was too incompetent to be charged. Not that he didn’t commit the crime but he was too feeble minded to be prosecuted. Biden isn’t going to win. Whatever his name, the Kennedy is going to pull votes from Biden. That’ll give Trump the chance to win the electoral college and clean up the decay in Washington.
If Trump loses, I’m retiring and moving to Florida. With my capital gains, I’ll be fine.
Trump and Co. are the decay, fiflth, refuse, excrement of society generally, but of Washington especially. The country's capital is a pit of vipers, but the profiteering, violent rhetoric, and evident narcissism of Trump's administration was such a tarnished foil that even Mitch McConnell seems like an upstanding guy.
Well I look forward to the success we had under Trump. You must be one of the few whos doing better under Biden.
R1. Be civil
I am not thin skinned at all but if you’re only here in bad faith, you have no reason to be here.
This isn’t a theory. It’s a fairly well known stance. It’s been all over the news. People are tired of Biden and all the progressive policies. People want to get back to be able to afford to live.
That's an opinion, not a theory.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/what-the-polls-say-today-kennedy-hurts-biden-helps-trump.html
That's also an opinion you goddamn moron.
That's his theory and theories sans evidence are no more than opinion. Like of your guns dickride and troll, do better.
The polls are showing and it’s been widely reported in the news. I get you can’t cope with a second term for Trump but I welcome it. If the polls continue the way they are trending, it’ll be a slam dunk.
There will be and you’ll be baffled why but everyone else will know why.
I have never said the election was stolen. I have always said Biden won a fair election.
You tried to imply it. Otherwise it was idiotic thing to say.
He has a half billion dollar judgment against him for crimes he's been convicted of.
Those are not crimes. Do you know what a crime is? A civil case is not a criminal case. None of those cases would have prevailed in a criminal court.
His actions were still illegal. Just because they chose to prosecute as civil, doesn't mean he didn't commit crimes.
lol... actually it does. Words have meanings. I get you lefties love 1984, but it's not a manual on how to run the country.
Trump has not been convicted of a crime.
Trump has been convicted of at the very least 17 crimes dumb dumb.
Cite. And be civil, especially when you are wrong. Show these convictions.
The trump org shit caught convictions already, 17 of them.
Cite where Trump has a criminal conviction. It’s not that hard do expect you’re wrong.
Do you not read, Trump org a private charity was convicted. He's the head thusly he's been convicted. Isn't not a huge jump in logic is literally 2+2=4 but you're acting as if I'm teaching a dolphin to play football.
Since you like wordplay, Trump said law and order yet he broke the law and was convicted of it. Civil laws are still laws.
You’re not convicted of civil actions. He is liable. It’s not a criminal offense. Have you ever had a parking ticket or a speeding ticket? Does that make you a criminal ? The answer is no. Those are both civil infractions. It isn’t word play. You’re just using the words incorrectly.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-civil-judgment-versus-criminal-conviction-28300.html
Right. We should use words correctly. Trump is a fraudster who obtained millions of dollars through false statements and false documents but not a criminal since the fraud he committed wasn't criminal fraud. Much better. Just like a parking ticket even.
I’m fine with fraudster. That’s an opinion.
Just coming back to this. In addition to the multiple times his organizations have been found guilty for fraud, in addition to being found liable for rape, he has been convinced by a jury of his peers on 34 distinct felonies. He is a felon.
It is fair to call him a felon now.
Yes, but he has been a criminal for some time now