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It doesn't. People are making shit up. From Wikipedia:
Is this how you express your anti-capitalist and anti-authoritarian stances?
so if you're regularly annoyed (1/4), angry (2/4) and spiteful (3/4) about being forced to participate in this exploitative system designed to bleed you dry until you die, you're ok still... but if you try to do anything about it (by arguing with or defying "authorities" in any way) you're an insane person that needs to be locked up and given drugs? cool. that's really convenient.
You're deliberately oversimplifying, decontextualising and exaggerating the symptoms, and it is unlikely your spitefulness and anger extend beyond an occasional comment that you write online. It seems as if you really really want to be perceived as nonconformist and against the system, which is colloquially known as "being an edgelord", and that doesn't count as a disorder.
Again, making shit up. Show me where the article mentions locking up the person.
No, you're just making excuses for doctors to gaslight people into thinking everything is fine and the problem is with them. How about you do better and not be such a blatant bootlicker? This kind of shit reminds me of business insider articles trying to convince poor people that poverty and climate apocalypse aren't causing a wave of mental illness, or that the solution to it is just more drugs
I'm not making excuses, because I don't intend to excuse behaviour that at the very least isn't typical, and more likely is just made up. As it is, you've provided no reasonable proof the situation in OP picture is typical or even real in any situation whatsoever (a cursory check of what the diagnosis is about suggests the situation isn't realistic), and you deliberately misinterpreted the diagnosis and exaggerated your "symptoms".
What I'm criticising here is a misinterpretation of a particular psychological diagnosis. Nowhere did I say "everything is fine", nowhere did I say psychological issues in general are merely individual issues. That's a whole other story. If I claimed Donald Trump rapes dead babies, and someone came and said that's ridiculous and there's no proof, is that person a Trump bootlicker? Fuck no. So why is criticism of this (as far as I can see for now) made-up idea that ODD diagnosis is abused this way "bootlicking"?
I could count under at least 4 of these and I consider myself an anti-authoritarian but otherwise normal, well-rounded person.
I do get easily annoyed by some people. I get angry and resentful when I think about the current state of politics. And I do get spiteful when authority figures ask me to do something ridiculous (malicious compliance, basically), which I guess is a 2-for-1 there.
if you are behaving this way on at least 75 days out of 150 in a way that impacts and impedes your ability to function, having a romantic or friendship-based relationship and work a job - yes, you might have a mental illness.
"A mental illness" or ODD? Shifting goalposts much?
ODD is a mental illness if we're accepting that the DSM is a diagnostic tool.
Right, by some people. Now, if this were a real situation in a clinic and not a persecution fantasy, chances are the therapist would inquire how and why those people cause annoyance exactly. Basically: is your reaction reasonable (annoyed by someone causing you actual harm, non-trivial discomfort, etc.) or unreasonable (annoyed by trivial things such as someone's clothes, skin colour if you're a racist, etc.)?
Do you take out that anger and resentment upon other people, in ways which are harmful to them? Is your daily life hampered by those emotions? If not, it probably doesn't count as a symptom.
It is not abnormal to react negatively to ridiculous tasks.
I don't believe that psychologists would count these things as actual symptoms. Probably you're fine and healthy.
If I were imprisoned against my will I would certainly be exhibiting these 4 "symptoms." Does that mean I have oppositional defiant disorder?
The problem with this is that it can too easily classify behavior that is appropriate to the situation as a disorder. The distinction that a professional might make is that these symptoms are only considered signs of a disorder if they are not appropriate to the situation, and that is a value judgement that cannot be objectively determined. This makes the diagnosis heavily subject to the values and beliefs of the person making it. In my opinion, we shouldn't he classifying these types of situational behaviors as a disorder because the cause is almost always external/environmental, which a psychiatrist is often ill-equipped to address.
Are you unaware of the leap of logic you're making here or is this an attempt at trolling? If it's the latter, 6/10. If it's the former. I'm sorry.