▲ 282 ▼ Somehow, TikTok is sending me notifications even though I don't have the app. And in order to disable them I have to install it. (mander.xyz) submitted 3 years ago by NoBasic@mander.xyz to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 116 points 3 years ago (7 children) Website based notifications are the most idiotic, stupid, abusive thing ever in the current internet scene. I work in IT and they cause so many issues. I 100% blame google and anyone else that added this feature to their browser. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] jpeps@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (4 children) What's the issue? Are people just randomly accepting notification permission requests all the time? 😲 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] GamerBoy705@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the same mentality as people just pressing "Next" in an installer and wonder why their browser homepage is hijacked or why there are programs that they never installed. People see the "Block" or "Accept" options in the notifications dialog and press Accept without even reading, especially on mobile browsers (Chrome) where it asks you as if it's a system message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jpeps@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's tough for me to accept that these poor people still exist haha. I remember back in 2005 or so clearing upwards of 5 toolbars from various relatives' browsers, but not so much since. I suppose notification management is the modern equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) These people will never go away. The people have 16 push messages an hour, are the same people who had 7 IE toolbars, are the same people who had their VCR blinking 12:00, are the same people who couldn't get the channel on their radio, are the same people who (presumably) kept buying snakeoil potions. These are the people who would rather be annoyed at something than fix it, they're the people who will spend hours living with problems rather than spend 1 hour learning how to resolve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Some even take pride in how little they know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 8 points 3 years ago They sure are and when you ask them about it, they never remember allowing it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 years ago Chrome makes it REEEEEALLY easy to accept these permissions now. I run into it a TON helping folks at my job. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 years ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 17 points 3 years ago Quite like the way that iOS handles it now. The only sites alllowed to request to send notifications are ones you have added to your Home Screen as PWAs permalink fedilink source parent [–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 years ago I've done tech support for a few elder relatives, and most of them have a wall of browser notifications to a bunch of random crap, because they say yes to every popup that appears 🤦♂️ It's pretty concerning that their first reaction to a random question is yes.... permalink fedilink source parent [–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Like most problems in IT I blame the users for randomly clicking button they don't understand. Init is part of the specification so it was always going to be added. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teolan@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) But google are the ones that implemented it first and pushed to have it added to the spec permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago Yeah, because it was needed for PWAs to be viable. There is no problem if you don't just press random buttons without reading the dialog box. Like OP clearly did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 3 years ago* They're useful in some cases. I used to use the Twitter website (PWA) and it was nice to get notifications without having to install the full bloated app. I use them for forums and web-based chat (like TheLounge IRC client), too permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 3 years ago Just another type of popup I have my ad/script blockers block. As much as I hate that, I hate sites that don't even let you back the fuck out properly even more. CBS News, which is often shared on aggregates like this and Reddit, was one of the worst. I've had shady scam/porn sites that were easier to go back/close than CBS's god damn website. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aridente@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh, since I use Firefox is that why I have never seen this ? Good to know . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joyjoy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Firefox supports notifications. What it doesn't support is PWAs. A PWA is what Voyager/wefwef is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starman@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago It doesn't support PWAs on desktop, I'm writing this comment from voyager running on firefox android permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (4 children) What's the issue? Are people just randomly accepting notification permission requests all the time? 😲 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] GamerBoy705@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the same mentality as people just pressing "Next" in an installer and wonder why their browser homepage is hijacked or why there are programs that they never installed. People see the "Block" or "Accept" options in the notifications dialog and press Accept without even reading, especially on mobile browsers (Chrome) where it asks you as if it's a system message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jpeps@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's tough for me to accept that these poor people still exist haha. I remember back in 2005 or so clearing upwards of 5 toolbars from various relatives' browsers, but not so much since. I suppose notification management is the modern equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) These people will never go away. The people have 16 push messages an hour, are the same people who had 7 IE toolbars, are the same people who had their VCR blinking 12:00, are the same people who couldn't get the channel on their radio, are the same people who (presumably) kept buying snakeoil potions. These are the people who would rather be annoyed at something than fix it, they're the people who will spend hours living with problems rather than spend 1 hour learning how to resolve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Some even take pride in how little they know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 8 points 3 years ago They sure are and when you ask them about it, they never remember allowing it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 years ago Chrome makes it REEEEEALLY easy to accept these permissions now. I run into it a TON helping folks at my job. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 years ago Yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GamerBoy705@lemmy.world 26 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's the same mentality as people just pressing "Next" in an installer and wonder why their browser homepage is hijacked or why there are programs that they never installed. People see the "Block" or "Accept" options in the notifications dialog and press Accept without even reading, especially on mobile browsers (Chrome) where it asks you as if it's a system message. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jpeps@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's tough for me to accept that these poor people still exist haha. I remember back in 2005 or so clearing upwards of 5 toolbars from various relatives' browsers, but not so much since. I suppose notification management is the modern equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) These people will never go away. The people have 16 push messages an hour, are the same people who had 7 IE toolbars, are the same people who had their VCR blinking 12:00, are the same people who couldn't get the channel on their radio, are the same people who (presumably) kept buying snakeoil potions. These are the people who would rather be annoyed at something than fix it, they're the people who will spend hours living with problems rather than spend 1 hour learning how to resolve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Some even take pride in how little they know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) It's tough for me to accept that these poor people still exist haha. I remember back in 2005 or so clearing upwards of 5 toolbars from various relatives' browsers, but not so much since. I suppose notification management is the modern equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) These people will never go away. The people have 16 push messages an hour, are the same people who had 7 IE toolbars, are the same people who had their VCR blinking 12:00, are the same people who couldn't get the channel on their radio, are the same people who (presumably) kept buying snakeoil potions. These are the people who would rather be annoyed at something than fix it, they're the people who will spend hours living with problems rather than spend 1 hour learning how to resolve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Some even take pride in how little they know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) These people will never go away. The people have 16 push messages an hour, are the same people who had 7 IE toolbars, are the same people who had their VCR blinking 12:00, are the same people who couldn't get the channel on their radio, are the same people who (presumably) kept buying snakeoil potions. These are the people who would rather be annoyed at something than fix it, they're the people who will spend hours living with problems rather than spend 1 hour learning how to resolve it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Some even take pride in how little they know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Some even take pride in how little they know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 8 points 3 years ago They sure are and when you ask them about it, they never remember allowing it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 years ago Chrome makes it REEEEEALLY easy to accept these permissions now. I run into it a TON helping folks at my job. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 17 points 3 years ago Quite like the way that iOS handles it now. The only sites alllowed to request to send notifications are ones you have added to your Home Screen as PWAs permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 years ago I've done tech support for a few elder relatives, and most of them have a wall of browser notifications to a bunch of random crap, because they say yes to every popup that appears 🤦♂️ It's pretty concerning that their first reaction to a random question is yes.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Like most problems in IT I blame the users for randomly clicking button they don't understand. Init is part of the specification so it was always going to be added. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] teolan@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) But google are the ones that implemented it first and pushed to have it added to the spec permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago Yeah, because it was needed for PWAs to be viable. There is no problem if you don't just press random buttons without reading the dialog box. Like OP clearly did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teolan@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) But google are the ones that implemented it first and pushed to have it added to the spec permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago Yeah, because it was needed for PWAs to be viable. There is no problem if you don't just press random buttons without reading the dialog box. Like OP clearly did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 years ago Yeah, because it was needed for PWAs to be viable. There is no problem if you don't just press random buttons without reading the dialog box. Like OP clearly did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 3 years ago* They're useful in some cases. I used to use the Twitter website (PWA) and it was nice to get notifications without having to install the full bloated app. I use them for forums and web-based chat (like TheLounge IRC client), too permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 3 years ago Just another type of popup I have my ad/script blockers block. As much as I hate that, I hate sites that don't even let you back the fuck out properly even more. CBS News, which is often shared on aggregates like this and Reddit, was one of the worst. I've had shady scam/porn sites that were easier to go back/close than CBS's god damn website. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aridente@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh, since I use Firefox is that why I have never seen this ? Good to know . permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] joyjoy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Firefox supports notifications. What it doesn't support is PWAs. A PWA is what Voyager/wefwef is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starman@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago It doesn't support PWAs on desktop, I'm writing this comment from voyager running on firefox android permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joyjoy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Firefox supports notifications. What it doesn't support is PWAs. A PWA is what Voyager/wefwef is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] starman@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago It doesn't support PWAs on desktop, I'm writing this comment from voyager running on firefox android permalink fedilink source parent
[–] starman@programming.dev 4 points 3 years ago It doesn't support PWAs on desktop, I'm writing this comment from voyager running on firefox android permalink fedilink source parent
