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Do you think these are reasonable responses to the things I'm saying?
Yes. You're literally speaking for the 26k users on Hexbear.
Nobody really thinks that, like a MAGA communist might say, Trump is somehow "less dangerous" or whatever. Or "at least he's honest" or "reveals the dreck of U.S. imperialism."
He's done more to radicalize people to the ultra-right than most U.S. Presidents.
The idea that Trump was a less competent imperialist is very popular here. You are straw manning this to mean, "every person who has every registered an account here agrees with me". Do you think this is a reasonable way to approach what I've disagreed with you about?
Can you state, in your own words, what points I've made?
Another thing:
I'm asking you to ask 26k users on Hexbear what they think and do some sort of poll before acting like your opinion or viewpoint is the most popular.
Yes, which would be a very silly thing to do and is premised on straw manning what I said. I already directly responded to this, too.
You did not.
I think Trump was a less competent imperialist
"The idea that Trump was a less competent imperialist is very popular here."
You don't know that.
Ask the 26k people on Hexbear what they think, each one, or don't bother trying to convince me.
Did you notice that you didn't answer my question?
Did you notice that I said I wasn't going to reply after you tried to pull that trick?
There was no trick...
Yes, there was.
I suppose I am guilty of disagreeing with you, but why this itself warrants a condemnation is unclear.
I'm happy to not continue this particular thread but that does require your participation as well. Throwing barbs on your way out and suggesting I don't respond is not reasonable.
Stop making yourself out to be the victim.
That's you. You're the one doing that.
"Can you state, in your own words, what points I've made?"
Okay, you know what? If you're going to keep editing your comments like this after I reply in order to make it look like I'm not answering your other points then, no, I'm not going to bother.
Stop adding things to your comments like that.
I didn't edit my comment... I think that's verifiable in Lemmy's metadata and edit status at least used to show up on the web interface before I began using native mobile clients.
I know what I saw.
No need for this weird paranoia-jacketing
I disagree that you can call a person "paranoid" for being defensive online. You should not throw those terms around Willy nilly.
How about making up conspiracies of other users editing their comments to confuse and attack you but being hackers in the code who can hide their edits? Saying stuff like “I know it’s you you did this before” to people accusing them of nonsense? That qualify?
No, that's just being very defensive. We shouldn't treat mental diagnosis as insults and we should not insinuate that because someone is weird online that there's something psychiatrically wrong with them
It’s not defensive to flatly deny evident reality in front of their face. They know how edits look, they are a mod and long time site user. Why are they going around accusing people of editing who don’t have edit symbols? Do they think the site is lying to them and in on the conspiracy?
How am I the one “jacketing” and not them? They are the ones accusing people of absurd things and dramabaiting
I am not saying that they are not jacketing, I have not spoken about the quality of their behaviour at all. I agree with you that they're being shitty, I just don't think it's cool to do what you did in response.
I don't know why they're being weird about edits that did not happen. I just know that that doesn't warrant implying they're mentally ill
When someone is plainly disconnected from evidence and reality and digging into a “it’s not me it’s literally everyone else gaslighting me and attacking me and persecuting me” mentality there’s really not much other explanation
Sure, whatever. I still do not think that justifies doing as you did, which is why I wrote the response that I did.
I’ll be real, I just don’t like Pluto and took the opportunity of them being a fucking weirdo to dunk on them. It makes a lot of sense why he’s always complaining about the “Nazbols” taking over hexbear and taking over his org and taking over the internet, I will just say that much
The only issue was the ableism (using mental illness as a dunk or insult is ableism). I wish we had a word for paranoid that didn’t have those implications but we don’t.
I was the one to bring up "paranoid" initially, because I don't know what else to call it but "paranoia-jacketing", when you say someone thinks they're being gangstalked.
Agreed, it’s hard with English not having a proper alternative word.
Yeah and I don't mind that you dunked I think it was well deserved. I just dislike the ableism inherent in saying "oh I bet you're being gangstalked too huh". I think it's shitty to use signs of mental diagnosis as dunks.
26k users lmao. 26k accounts, of which 90% are dead or banned, and the remaining 10% include tons of alts and duplicates. There's probably like 2000 active users on this site.
I gotta know, how many bans do you have under your belt?
simply don't cop bans
lmao
I have somewhere between 0 and 10 bans