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Painful day for tech titans as EU finally sinks its regulatory teeth into them
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 09 Mar 2024
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It would be amazing if even a small portion of EU fines for big tech companies went to supporting open source alternatives.
In the Linux world, we are seeing right now how much things like Valve putting a bit of money into Linux, Germany's Sovereign Tech Fund giving €1m to the Gnome foundation, etc, is improving things massively. Funding helps. Developers/designers/etc like being paid.
Imagine if even 1% of these big tech fines went into a pot that an independent body chooses open projects to invest in. It'd be huge.
Open source has a sustainability problem in terms of funding, developers, and burnout. To me it seems we have a relatively easy and politically palatable solution.
The EU spends plenty of grant money on FLOSS. It's part of the general Horizon grants, there's a bug bounty programme (as replacement for the hackatons which didn't work as well as imagined), and last but not least the EU publishes lots of software as FLOSS.
You don't want to make that stuff contingent on big tech misbehaving. The fines go into the general EU budget but the EU doesn't get to keep it, membership fees are lowered in the next year by the same amount thus the windfall goes to member state's budgets.
Why, in Germany of all countries they should have supported KDE. Granted, it's already doing fine, but then Gnome's problem is not with lack of money.
Probably because Gnome is used in more businesses and Gnome is pretty good at implementing accessibility features, which was one of the main conditions of the grant.
And it's not a big deal, KDE is already getting a lot of support, and the work Gnome is doing is going to be an open, cross-desktop framework. It benefits KDE too.
At the same time yes and ... they are very unorthodox in their understanding of what makes things more accessible.
Not making their DE yet another Windows clone does not mean it's inaccessible.
I get it, you clearly have a personal issue with Gnome. Just don't use it then. There's no need to be upset about an amazing open source project getting support and improving the accessibility stack for the entire Linux desktop.
I use FVWM with 2-pixel solid borders and no window titlebars or buttons or panels, except for one FvwmButtons instance with digital clock, all keyboard-controlled. EDIT: ... so I obviously don't prefer Windows
The issues with Gnome are that it's resource-heavy and inconsistent in UX, and setting it up is PITA.
Cinnamon as its fork is much better.
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No it isn't. Stop making shit up.
Gnome is easily the most consistent DE out there. By far. Honestly, by far and away the most consistent. Even MacOS is less consistent, and that's saying something.
? Install it and it's done. I change a couple of keyboard shortcuts too but that's unnecessary.
So a Windows UX clone. Not everything has to be yet another Windows clone. What happened to you not preferring Windows UX lol
I've even seen benchmarks. In my own experience it's slow where default KDE5 is fast. I didn't dig why, because I'm not going to use a full-fledged DE over my cozy FVWM setup anyway.
Also accusing better people than you of lying is impolite.
I already guessed that's your opinion, but OK. "Even"? It's the same horror as MacOS.
It can look like Gnome 3 UX clone too, and that's how it looked when I used it. Just more consistent and usable.
Anyway, there's such a thing as ergonomics. It's not really subjective, it can be measured in clicks and keystrokes, with accounting for mistakes and searching for elements of UI. Gnome devs are clearly ignorant of it.
MacOS and Gnome are sometimes worse than even modern Windows in that regard.
BTW, about Windows - w2k and xp were very good in terms of ergonomics.
You're lying. That's why I called you a liar.
Gnome is the most consistent. That's an objective, factual statement.
No, you talked about a Windows UX clone. We get it, you want everything to be a Windows clone.
Lmao
Something gnome does very well and Windows and its clones don't.
Honestly, I don't know why only Gnome devs seems to care about consistency and ergonomics. It's maddening.
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So you don't have any arguments and apparently think that repeating shit will make it true.
Any amount of "HAHAHA" is not an argument, and like I said, ergonomics is not a subjective thing.
I've comprehensively dismantled everything you've said.
We get it, Gnome makes you cry like a little baby and you want a lousy Windows clone, anything else makes your little Microsoft-gimped brain hurt.
Stick to your Windows with its shit ergonomics lmao. I'll stick to the best desktop for ergonomics hands-down.
Gnome is a lousy Windows clone.
Also fuck off
Lmao, Plasma and Cinnamon are literally Windows clones. Gnome is nothing like it.
Do you see a taskbar at the bottom? A start button? Menu bar? System tray in the bottom right? Clock in the bottom right? Minimise, Maximise, Close at the top right of each Window? Nah. That's Windows and its clones like Plasma and Cinnamon.
Aww I huwt the wittle baby's feewings :''(
Which at best would be its only achievement.
Apparently RISC OS, AmigaOS and NextStep were Windows clones.
See, that's why Gnome is appropriately treated as crap. Because its developers and users alike are similar to you in general.
First you say it's a Windows clone, then you concede it isn't. Make your mind up 🤣
Cinnamon and Plasma are Windows clones. That's fine if what you want is a Windows clone. I don't. I want a consistent, good looking DE free of ancient design cruft and free of the shitty Windows workflow.
Nah, only weird losers who want a Windows clone cry about Gnome. WAAAAHHHHHH THIS ISNT LIKE WINDOWS!!! WHERE'S MY TASKBAR 😭😭😭😭
Gnome is treated very well. It's the most commonly found default amongst distros. Because it's the most trusted.
Don't get me started on the absolute bug-fest that Plasma is. Literally unusable. Cinnamon, while a Windows clone, is at least stable. Probably because it's Gnome-based.
I apologize, but I initially read "imagine if just 1% of these fines went into pot" and I was 100% on board for a brief time
Yeah, but until then we can support these projects. Even a one-time 10€ donation can go a huge distance, or monthly 1€ even. These add up.
P.S. To any open source devs, please allow us to donate yearly recurring 10-15€! There are so many projects to support, but i have to live from something as well.