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Painful day for tech titans as EU finally sinks its regulatory teeth into them (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 1 point 2 years ago (11 children)

and Gnome is pretty good at implementing accessibility features, which was one of the main conditions of the grant.

At the same time yes and ... they are very unorthodox in their understanding of what makes things more accessible.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Not making their DE yet another Windows clone does not mean it's inaccessible.

    I get it, you clearly have a personal issue with Gnome. Just don't use it then. There's no need to be upset about an amazing open source project getting support and improving the accessibility stack for the entire Linux desktop.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

    I use FVWM with 2-pixel solid borders and no window titlebars or buttons or panels, except for one FvwmButtons instance with digital clock, all keyboard-controlled. EDIT: ... so I obviously don't prefer Windows

    The issues with Gnome are that it's resource-heavy and inconsistent in UX, and setting it up is PITA.

    Cinnamon as its fork is much better.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (8 children)

    I use FVWM with 2-pixel solid borders and no window titlebars or buttons or panels, except for one FvwmButtons instance with digital clock, all keyboard-controlled. EDIT: ... so I obviously don't prefer Windows

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    The issues with Gnome are that it's resource-heavy

    No it isn't. Stop making shit up.

    inconsistent in UX

    Gnome is easily the most consistent DE out there. By far. Honestly, by far and away the most consistent. Even MacOS is less consistent, and that's saying something.

    and setting it up is PITA.

    ? Install it and it's done. I change a couple of keyboard shortcuts too but that's unnecessary.

    Cinnamon as its fork is much better.

    So a Windows UX clone. Not everything has to be yet another Windows clone. What happened to you not preferring Windows UX lol

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    No it isn’t. Stop making shit up.

    I've even seen benchmarks. In my own experience it's slow where default KDE5 is fast. I didn't dig why, because I'm not going to use a full-fledged DE over my cozy FVWM setup anyway.

    Also accusing better people than you of lying is impolite.

    Gnome is easily the most consistent DE out there. By far. Honestly, by far and away the most consistent. Even MacOS is less consistent, and that’s saying something.

    I already guessed that's your opinion, but OK. "Even"? It's the same horror as MacOS.

    So a Windows UX clone. Not everything has to be yet another Windows clone. What happened to you not preferring Windows UX lol

    It can look like Gnome 3 UX clone too, and that's how it looked when I used it. Just more consistent and usable.

    Anyway, there's such a thing as ergonomics. It's not really subjective, it can be measured in clicks and keystrokes, with accounting for mistakes and searching for elements of UI. Gnome devs are clearly ignorant of it.

    MacOS and Gnome are sometimes worse than even modern Windows in that regard.

    BTW, about Windows - w2k and xp were very good in terms of ergonomics.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    You're lying. That's why I called you a liar.

    Gnome is the most consistent. That's an objective, factual statement.

    No, you talked about a Windows UX clone. We get it, you want everything to be a Windows clone.

    Just more consistent

    Lmao

    Anyway, there's such a thing as ergonomics.

    Something gnome does very well and Windows and its clones don't.

    Honestly, I don't know why only Gnome devs seems to care about consistency and ergonomics. It's maddening.

    BTW, about Windows - w2k and xp were very good in terms of ergonomics.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    So you don't have any arguments and apparently think that repeating shit will make it true.

    Any amount of "HAHAHA" is not an argument, and like I said, ergonomics is not a subjective thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I've comprehensively dismantled everything you've said.

    We get it, Gnome makes you cry like a little baby and you want a lousy Windows clone, anything else makes your little Microsoft-gimped brain hurt.

    Stick to your Windows with its shit ergonomics lmao. I'll stick to the best desktop for ergonomics hands-down.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    Gnome is a lousy Windows clone.

    Also fuck off

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Lmao, Plasma and Cinnamon are literally Windows clones. Gnome is nothing like it.

    Do you see a taskbar at the bottom? A start button? Menu bar? System tray in the bottom right? Clock in the bottom right? Minimise, Maximise, Close at the top right of each Window? Nah. That's Windows and its clones like Plasma and Cinnamon.

    Also fuck off

    Aww I huwt the wittle baby's feewings :''(

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Gnome is nothing like it.

    Which at best would be its only achievement.

    Do you see a taskbar at the bottom? A start button? Menu bar? System tray in the bottom right? Clock in the bottom right? Minimise, Maximise, Close at the top right of each Window?

    Apparently RISC OS, AmigaOS and NextStep were Windows clones.

    See, that's why Gnome is appropriately treated as crap. Because its developers and users alike are similar to you in general.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    First you say it's a Windows clone, then you concede it isn't. Make your mind up 🤣

    Cinnamon and Plasma are Windows clones. That's fine if what you want is a Windows clone. I don't. I want a consistent, good looking DE free of ancient design cruft and free of the shitty Windows workflow.

    Nah, only weird losers who want a Windows clone cry about Gnome. WAAAAHHHHHH THIS ISNT LIKE WINDOWS!!! WHERE'S MY TASKBAR 😭😭😭😭

    Gnome is treated very well. It's the most commonly found default amongst distros. Because it's the most trusted.

    Don't get me started on the absolute bug-fest that Plasma is. Literally unusable. Cinnamon, while a Windows clone, is at least stable. Probably because it's Gnome-based.

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