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Chris Gloninger wove the reality of global heating into his forecasts in the conservative heartland of Iowa. Not everyone was receptive.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's really weird how in the rest of the world, climate change is an accepted scientific fact. We ain't doing much about it, that's true but at least we aren't straight up denying it like some Americans... what is it with the US always having the dumbest of the dumb? Or maybe they are just super loud?

Idk it's weird.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Fox News destroyed America.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also a country full of people who own obnoxious, selfish, vain gas guzzlers, who actively ridicule anyone trying to drive a sensible car, and cancel out all the effort the rest of us are at least trying to do

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

People who are willing to put ethics to the side are able to making a lot money in the US and nothing speaks louder than money.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

In the USA, climate change is also an accepted scientific fact. These people are idiots.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not true, all countries of the world have groups / politcal parties that deny science. It's the "easy" way, and some people prefer to believe in the easy way, instead of reasonably concluding that reality is not easy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least in Canada and most of the European countries, these people are mocked out of public space. Only in the US do they have a microphone and that's the point I'm bringing. I know there are stupid people in every country. But why are they taken seriously in the US and not the other countries?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah all those massive anti-vaccine protests in Canada and Europe weren't denying science. And if they were they were just Americans on vacation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

200 people from Alberta isn't what I would be considering "massive" my dude lol

We aren't numerous but we still are 38 million people 😅

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

what is it with the US always having the dumbest of the dumb?

I would gently suggest that Reddit-style hot takes might be better suited remaining on Reddit.

As far as the actual data goes, the Pew Research organization did a survey on attitudes toward climate change by country back in 2019. The main takeaways:

  • Yep, the US lags behind most of Europe in regards to attitudes around climate change. However the disparity is more of shades of gray rather than the dramatic binary situation you described. There are deniers in every single country listed, and even Germany reported a full 27% of their population not considering climate change a serious threat. Sweden had 30%

  • On a longitudinal level, concerns about climate change have increased everywhere, including the US. Between 2013 & 2018, the proportion of US respondents who considered climate change a major threat increased 20%.

  • Unsurprisingly, there's a major partisan gap in the US. 83% of left-leaning respondents considered it a major threat, whereas only 27% of right-leaning ones did.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Does any other country have one if its two biggest political parties officially denying that climate change is real?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It's not far off the UK surprisingly.

From what I gather from online it is very different though. For example our conservative party was the first government in the world to talk publicly about climate change. The view hasn't really changed (Boris tried to ride the wave of anti global warming for a bit before turning and trying to take credit for renewables). Also our carbon taxes are way higher. In the UK party wise it's more of a how much are we going to do about climate change.

I like your post but it's missing nuance I believe. Not that is easily quantifiable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They’re super loud and have the backing of loud megaphones in industry and media, same as y’all. I wouldn’t be surprised if at this point the numbers were similar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Supposedly it's polarized in Australia too.