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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They shouldn't request tips at all. Tips only should be provided if a customer feels like the service was above and beyond normal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, but that's a societal and cultural change. I'm talking about a legal change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure the invisible hand of the free market will sort it out and arrive at an optimal solution soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

At payment wait staff will tip the customer. Whoever tipped highest wins bourgeois status for the day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a legal solution too. It's called: regulate the minimum wages.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FYI: Denmark doesn't have minimum wage.
Guess what's the difference between minimum salary of McDonalds worker in Denmark vs USA.
Keyword: labor union.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not true in the US. They have a tipped minimum wage; there, if you're not tipping you're stealing someone's labour.

It is a sucky system, as the buried lede in that article shows:

However, data from the very checkout system that prompted tipping revealed disparities in pay. Neitzel noticed that Black employees were earning less tips than their White counterparts.

But, until it is burned to the ground, that is the system and (in the US) you should not use it to exploit people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Technically the employer is stealing their labour, the customer is paying the advertised price in a perfectly legal exchange.

If the staff don't like this, they need to unionise and fight the employer to pay a proper living wage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

engaging with tipping culture effectively means enabling said culture

not to mention that employers in the USA still have to match up to the federal minimum wage if tips dont add up to the federal minimum wage

'if you dont tip they dont make minimum wage!' is effectively nonsense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Some areas in the US have tipped minimum wage. Some areas have an actual minimum wage that is paid regardless of tips. Don't accuse others of exploiting people when it is truly the employer backed up by the local state law. Blame your state and do something about it.