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[–] [S] 83 points 2 years ago (49 children)

I already checked they can eat fertilized eggs as well.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago* (16 children)

    I mean, unless people are eating Filipino Balut on a regular basis.... I don't think that the vast majority of eggs are fertilized.

    I guess Balut is a good question and the island / city of Ilo Ilo is predominantly Catholic. So I could ask around lol. But honestly, I avoid that food. It just doesn't look right....

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    I looked it up and it doesn't matter for the purposes of lent if it is fertilized or not

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Could you give a source? Not calling you a liar just curious

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    I don't see any specific mention of fertilized eggs in that page. I don't think it's safe to assume just because they don't explicitly mention it that the rule is the same.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    I mean you say that but I'm pretty sure my mom's island is the only place in the world where fertilized eggs are eaten on a regular basis and also has a majority Catholic population.

    And I've never heard of this situation really coming up. I'd expect the answer to be written in Ilocano as well.

    How and where did you look this up?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I found out about it this week and just looked around online plus asked a Pinay friend.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    Pinay ain't enough. My Dad is from Luzon and has never had Balut in his life. A lot of shit talking happens between islands.

    Ilocano specifically is what I'd trust as an authority.

    Even then, those crazies on the island of Ilo Ilo really like their Balut. They may ignore the rule in favor of eating their local delicacy.

    I think a Catholic priest from the island of Ilo Ilo would be the authority on the discussion. But yeah, I dont think this is something you'd easily look up from an English-speaking perspective.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    You know it really doesn't matter because there is no way anyone eating eggs on the regular hasn't had a fertilized one at least once. Chickens need to be mated to start producing eggs and quail eggs are often sold fertilized.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago*

    Chickens don't have to be mated to lay eggs. I have 7 chickens, no rooster, and get on average 7 eggs a day.

    Also have 1 goose who lays a clutch off eggs once a year. But I don't have a male goose.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    If you've looked around online can you at least post a link? If not, could you say what website the link was from?

    I dunno why you are being so hostile.

    It's an interesting thought experiment for sure. But it only works out if the precise wording is as you say.


    As far as Catholic tradition goes, IIRC it's because meat is a luxury afforded to by the rich. Eating humbly on Fridays is the actual tradition. That's why Fish is allowed (during Jesus time, Fish was the food of the poor. But times have changed...)

    Also because Fish isn't meat according to ancient Hebrew. I don't think this is about the 'livliness' of the animal.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I posted one already in this thread. Just find it strange that the RCC acknowledges that a fetus isn't an adult in one context (yummy eggs) but it does in another context (oppressing and murdering women).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You are missing the point and the underlying nuances of tradition here.

    The nuance is that under Hebrew / Greek / Latin, the words for Flesh/Meat/etc. Etc. Don't line up to today's words. As such, the Catholic Church allows individual cultures / local Bishops to make rulings on their idea of the original text and how it lines up to culture.

    For the Catholic American, the American Catholic Bishops have gone with the 'Flesh' definition of the ancient tradition. Eggs, even if fertilized, are not flesh. Furthermore, only humans have souls as per Catholic tradition so no problems with chickens, pigs, cattle or other animals. Never have had an issue.


    The embryo / pro life thing is more about pro-birth and population dynamics.

    That's why religious people's brains are exploding over the IVF debate. But you won't get anyone with this eggs thing.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If an egg isn't a chicken a fetus isn't an adult. I don't give a flying fucking shit what some bronze age idiots wrote in their moldly old scrolls.

    The Catholic Church is being hypocritical and if they stop ramming the altarboys for a second maybe they could notice that. Bunch of child rapists corrupting democracy to lecture the rest of us on sexual morality.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I believe you, but do you have a source for that?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Pretty sure that's a US thing or maybe more regulated markets. I've seen videos of like street markets where a food vendor cracks an egg over their grill and a formed chicken pops out. They have to quickly flick them off.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Balut (Aborted Duck eggs) is straight up a delicacy in my Mom's home island and the island is mostly Catholic. So it's an actual issue.

    It's literally sold like ice cream on that island. Every street corner, the locals love it.

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  • [+] -3 points 2 years ago (3 children)
  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Since when has consent meant anything to the Church?

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  • [+] -18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Interesting. I could guess that "removed" might be ableist or sexist, but the fact that you were able to pick correctly and confidently suggests it's not censored for you. Is this specific to my client or instance? Tbh seeing "removed" (in italics) everywhere is one of the things that has annoyed me about using lemmy, and I'd turn it off if I knew how. Not that I'm in favor of slurs, I'd just like to be able to see what people are actually saying and judge them myself.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I use Boost for lemmy but I'm unsure if it's your instance or not.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago*

    Thanks. I use jerboa, and I see that we're on different instances too. I'll look into it :)

    Edit: it's the instance. Tbh I probably could have figured this out a long time ago just didn't even know to look into it until I saw someone that seemed to be able to see uncensored words.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Bad news, humans are classified as animals too.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    Not according to the Catholic Church (ya know what the meme is about). No need to downvote me for pointing out how stupid they are.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 years ago (6 children)

    I agree. All animals don't have souls.

    Now what does that have to do with anything? If an egg isn't a chicken then an ectopic fetus isn't an adult.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Because (according to the church) humans are special little God-lite creatures. No need to downvote because you forgot the meme is about dunking on Catholics.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    What does souls have to do with it? Meat isnt okay during lent, nothing about souls.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Because you're confused why they might think of an animal embryo differently than a human one

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The point of their holiday is to show solidarity with the sufferings of their supposed founder. So they don't eat meat because meat makes people happy. Alright so they can eat eggs because eggs are not yet meat.

    Meanwhile they also claim that a fetus is an adult.

    On one side they are saying a fetus is an adult and on the other they are saying it isn't. Nothing to do with souls, nothing to do with humans being special, and everything to do with my controlling women and liking a nice omelette

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