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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (29 children)

Apparently they don't like Sweet Baby's focus on "promoting inclusivity", so just some bigot getting their panties on a twist that the "out-group" is being treated with a basic level of human dignity. They then spent a bunch of time and effort to let the world know they think inclusivity is bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

people should be free to know who worked on the game they buy. If they don't like sweetbaby's products, then they are free to not pay money for them. Transparency is good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And is this information hidden in some way?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

not anymore, thanks to that plugin

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not a plugin, and as far as I know it uses publicly available information.

I just don't understand the use case. So people look for a game they'd like to try, then go and check that list, then go back and purchase the game if it's not on the list? Why? If they make games bad the reviews will tell you the game is bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's perfectly reasonable for people to say "I don't want to buy a game that Sweetbaby worked on". It's their choice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And it's perfectly reasonable for people to ask "why don't you want to buy a game sweetbaby worked on?"

For example: I won't purchase a game produced by Blizzard. If someone asked me why I wouldn't evade the question by saying "I am free to do so, that is my choice." I will happily tell them it's because of how poorly they treat their employees, and how they actively make games worse to try to squeeze more money out of people. The entire point of a boycott is to inform people why this company should be boycotted.

All this dancing around answering the very simple question of "why do you actively want to avoid purchasing a game SBI worked on" speaks volumes as to how generally unacceptable that reason must be. Makes it look like people are afraid to "say the quiet part of loud." Why else would they not just answer the question?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People don't need your approval on how they spend their money. Nor do they need to justify their choices.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

True. Just be aware that when someone says "this looks like bigotry," if the only response they get is "I don't have to explain myself to you!" That doesn't make it look less like bigotry.

Any reason at all would have looked better. Or just not replying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can't accuse someone of bigotry because they don't want to buy something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure you can when their reason for not buying something is clearly bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

people don't have to buy what you are selling. It's their decision, not yours.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I never said otherwise. I simply said "the reason they don't want to buy this isn't because of what the product is, it's because they are bigots who don't like the fact that there are people involved who promote inclusivity," and nobody has presented any alternative reasons.

People can absolutely buy or not buy whatever they want. And when bigots do things because of bigotry I can point out that bigotry when people ask why they are doing those things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is more to the world that your narrow US/Western politics. We just don't care to be part of your silly crusades when playing games.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the one curating lists to let everyone know some "woke" company worked on it. I just call bigotry when I see it.

We just don't care to be part of your silly crusades

Yet you've been consistently replying with nothing but weak attempts at evasion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's evasion because we don't have to justify our personal choices to you. You don't get to decide how we spend our money.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People can absolutely buy or not buy whatever they want. And when bigots do things because of bigotry I can point out that bigotry when people ask why they are doing those things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You have become such a slave to your corporate overlords, that saying "no, I don't want this" offends you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And why don't you want it?

There's all sorts of things I won't buy and companies I won't purchase from. When asked why I'm perfectly happy to give my reasons instead of just saying "I don't have to and you can't make me!" Repeatedly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The part of you don't understand is that people don't have to justify their choices to you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You have been spending a lot of time "not justifying your choices" to other people, when no one has claimed that you have to. So what are you trying to achieve here if not "justify your choices?"

People can absolutely buy or not buy whatever they want. And when bigots do things because of bigotry I can point out that bigotry when people ask why they are doing those things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is it also reasonable to spam report and make racist/sexist remarks?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I think it's always reasonable to report bigots playing stupid bigot games. The fact that the Steam Group had to delete every discussion and completely lock their discussion area to maintain compliance with Steam's policies seems to indicate those reports were warranted.

Racist and sexist remarks are never appropriate. Do you have specific examples you are concerned about? Or are you going to give me some vague "they are the ones saying racist things!!1!" Nonsense with nothing to back it up?

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