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Michigan governor says not voting for Biden over Gaza war ‘supports second Trump term’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Then run a fucking better candidate. Biden is actively ignoring the will of his constituents. He didn't win because he's likeable or desired, he won because Trump generates negative voter turnout. Imagine if the DNC actually ran someone people were enthusiastic about--they might actually get a fucking landslide.
As much as it doesn't feel like it when inside certain echo chambers there's a lot of support for Israel in the United States. The situation is also very complex with plenty of obviously very bad potential outcomes if he listened to the extremists, I have no doubt 90% of those would then blame him for whatever the result of rash action would be.
You don't like it but it's the politically sensible thing to do, democrats always lose chunks of purist votes that's one of thy main reasons the right manages to stay relevant and there's no point chasing them because of it wasn't this it would be something - there's always something.
Polling is showing that Democrats and Independents are not in favor of this war (Republicans love it, but they don't matter to Biden winning). There isn't a silent majority that makes this a keen political maneuver, it's just out of step with the party.
https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/israel-hamas-polling-february-2024
Genocide is not complex.
If a government is intentionally withholding food, medicine and potable water from a population it considers undesirable, it is intentionally committing genocide.
There.
Simple.
A 3 month old Palestinian baby boy died of starvation yesterday.
He wasn't even born in Oct.
Of course you can use dramatic phrasing and emotive language to make your point feel weighty but it doesn't change the reality that it's a hugely complex situation.
Hamas are still fighting, it's a war. I don't know why you expect Isrealies to just let them keep killing them without trying to fight beck. Now you can start getting into who started it and Isreals right to exist but that's all the complex stuff you want to ignore.
If a government is withholding food and water from their population that's terrible, there's evidence of Hamas doing this and of them refusing to let the idf evacuate children from hospitals and transport them to world class medical facilities in Isreal (where many Muslim doctors and nurses work and get treatment)
There's also lots of easily available information about the routes into the Gaza strip that aid is being delivered and the amounts being delivered, you can read about all the special measures set up and the complexities of that if you're interested.
Now we could get into why Hamas are doing the things they're doing and why Isreal is but again it's all very complex - we'd have to get into fanatical Islam, Iran's internal politics, Isreal's politics and history...
Any Government that is intentionally blocking food, medicine, and potable water to a population it considers undesirable is a government intentionally committing genocide.
You're repeating easily provably false lies to justify a government starving a population to death. Lies that Israels own newspapers have disproven, for at least some of the statements. You're just another disgusting genocide cheerleader.
Far left progressives arent his constituents. Those would be the people closest to the center.
If far left wants representation, they need a new party. But to do that would splinter the vote and cause Rs to win for a while.
Instead, choose sortition!
His constituents are all citizens of the United States and 67% of them disapprove of his handling of the conflict.
Not sure what you wwant out of this conversation. I think hes handled it poorly as well and genocide in Gaza needs to stop.
Hes still gonna pander to the right more than the left, and the MIC has had his hooks in him since Obama.
To stop this war, its gonna take more than 67% disapproval of the war, especially when 30% will autohate everything he does.