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Did Stoltenberg just declare war on the world's largest nuclear power? Imagine Russia sending fighter jets to attack the US, as defence for any of the countries the US illegally occupies. (www.ft.com)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry to hijack, but could you please provide the source where Stoltenberg admits the actual reason the war started? Need to dunk on libs who still think in 2024 that the information wasn't out there before the war or that it was due to some indivisible issue like Ukrainian sovereignty over those regions but can't remember the right terms to search for it

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh it was here https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm#:~:text=The%20background%20was%20that%20President,condition%20for%20not%20invade%20Ukraine

this bit in particular

The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders. He has got the exact opposite. He has got more NATO presence in eastern part of the Alliance and he has also seen that Finland has already joined the Alliance and Sweden will soon be a full member.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, that’s exactly the one!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

zoidberg salute 2