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The former president reportedly plans on utilizing the military to enforce immigration policies and erecting deportation camps along the border.

Donald Trump isn’t only looking to reinstate the extreme, anti-immigration policies of his first term if he wins in November; he is seeking to take things a step further. “We have to do something about it,” Trump told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham in a town hall Tuesday, repeating his ugly 2015 claim that other countries are “not sending their finest” to the United States. “We have the worst border in the history of the world.”

Claiming that countries are “emptying out their prisons” into the U.S., Trump reiterated his plans to carry out mass deportations, which he has promised on the campaign trail would be the “largest” in American history. Of course, he was vague on the details, telling Ingraham that he would “get the bad ones out first,” which he’d find using “local police.”

Nevertheless, the remarks provided yet another glimpse into the radical border policies he’d pursue in a second term—which, as the Washington Post reported Wednesday, could include mobilizing the military for immigration enforcement and the establishment of deportation camps along the border. “Americans can expect that immediately upon President Trump’s return to the Oval Office, he will restore all of his prior policies, implement brand new crackdowns that will send shock waves to all the world’s criminal smugglers, and marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation in American history,” campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt told the outlet. Undocumented immigrants “should not get comfortable,” she added, “because very soon they will be going home.”

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Who should I vote for to stop Trump from implementing those genocides? Give me a name please. Show me the likelihood of them winning.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Standing up for a candidate that aligns with your wants/needs? 0.000000000000000000000000000000001% chance

Letting genocides slide with no repercussions: 0%

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You appear to have not read my post and just posted something unrelated.

I will ask you again:

Who should I vote for to stop Trump from implementing those genocides? Give me a name please. Show me the likelihood of them winning.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do apologize, I probably should have added more context between my posts.

A candidate like Cenk Uygur. 0.000000000000000000000000000000001% of preventing a genocide

Letting genocides slide with no repercussions: 0% of preventing another genocide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I see, you either don't understand math or don't understand the constitution.

Cenk cannot be president. He was not born in the United States. His parents weren't even citizens. He has a 0% chance of being able to stop a genocide. Not a 0 with a decimal point, a bunch of other zeroes and then a 1. 0. Zero. Goose egg. Nothing. Nada.

You might as well vote for Prince Harry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's not going to win, but a shocking concept of where a political rival aligns with your ideals and you "Want" to vote for him.

Versus a candidate that abandons those ideals and blames/gaslights you for not supporting their off moral behavior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your words:

A candidate like Cenk Uygur. 0.000000000000000000000000000000001% of preventing a genocide

Also, my words:

Who should I vote for to stop Trump from implementing those genocides? Give me a name please. Show me the likelihood of them winning.

So you neither did that nor were accurate about his ability to be elected and prevent genocide because, again, he can't be elected.

So unless you're trying to claim that voting for someone who can't get elected will somehow stop Trump... otherwise, again, tell me who to vote for who will stop Trump from implementing the genocides he and his people have already announced their intentions to implement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I feel like we are arguing semantics when we say stuff like Republican genocide vs Democrat genocide and asking which one is worse. When obviously the answer is both are wrong and counter productive to a growing society.

So..... what are democrats going to do about it?

Because it seems republicans have made their minds up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I feel like we are arguing semantics when we say stuff like Republican genocide vs Democrat genocide and asking which one is worse.

This is what I said:

Trump wants to commit genocide against brown people.

Trump wants to commit genocide against queer people.

Trump would be happy to let Israel continue their genocide against Palestinians.

I'm not asking which one is worse, I'm saying there will be three under Trump.

Do you really think Biden plans to cleanse the U.S. of brown people and queer people? Or is it not genocide when it's queer people and the wrong kind of brown people?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

How do you make peace with one genocide? I don't mean this as a 'gotcha' question, but it's literally a thing I don't know how to handle. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m not asking which one is worse, I’m saying there will be three under Trump.

Sounds like it will be a real blood bath, what are democrats going to do about it?

Because for me it's sounds pretty simple

  • Cease fire in Gaza

  • Resume food aid into Gaza

Really simple and quite easy to do. But if they don't want to do that.... they can always....

  • Try someone besides Biden

  • Push economic policies that help Americans

But if they really didn't want to do that and wanted to lose an election, all they have to do is the same thing they are right now.

Do you really think Biden plans to cleanse the U.S. of brown people and queer people? Or is it not genocide when it’s queer people and the wrong kind of brown people?

People are people whether they live in the US or not. I am not going to put one on a balance over the other.

But I am not going to agree with one flavor of genocide over the other, just because Biden's is fruit punch flavored.

So... what are democrats going to do about it, because the ball is in their court.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Let me give you a little dose of realism.

We are long past the point where voting in a presidential election can disrupt the status quo.

Under the current circumstances, voting in the presidential can never be anything more than harm reduction. There are only 3 options when it comes to voting:

  1. Vote for Trump and accelerate the US decline to neofascism.

  2. Throw away your vote on a 3rd party candidate who will never - and could never - win, likely contributing to the decline since conservatives are considerably less likely to vote 3rd party.

  3. Vote for Biden to stave off the decline as much as possible while pursuing other means of affecting change.

Even if a large enough number voted 3rd party to make Democrats take notice, the Democrats are not going to change in any meaningful way. The best they will give us is more of the same, paying lip service to leftist ideas while compromising with corporations and the right at every possible opportunity.

If you want things to change in this country you need to protest, engage in direct action and mutual aid, unionize, and do everything you can think of to create and grow alternative institutions of power.

Edit to include voting in primaries and voting local if you live in an area where that could possibly help.